Cotto - Mayorga Fight Thread

[ross]

They say skill beats will.

So Mayorga was more skillfull than Forrest and Vargas?

[NUCLEAR BULL]

i like both guys tho cotto is one of my fav fighters so i hope he wins and wins looking good with it..........what channel in the uk is showing this

[Spicoli]

They say skill beats will.

So Mayorga was more skillfull than Forrest and Vargas?

Nah will and freshness was there 8 yrs and 4-5 losses ago. He did well...gave Forrest the 2nd go. I would say he was more skilled, for what thats worth, then a shot to pieces bloated Vargas who looked more Odlandier Solis.

[Hulk]

i never liked cotto, and dont some knee-jerker come on here and say i'm raacist----i nevber liked cotto, period. is he skilled? yes. is he a good fighter? absolutely IMO. BUT IS HE A GREAT FIGHTER? NO. Not inmy opinion. He's like a ken Norton. really really good, but never making it to greatness. Will Mayorga win? Maybe. He's 37, and thats a 7 year disadvantage against 30 yr old Cotto. Thats a bad spread. But I like Mayorga. I like the quirky ones, the herky jerky ones, the impervious ones, the unorthodox ones. Mayorga by TKO in 3 or less. Shock the world. Gets a shot at Pacquiao, and will get KTFO in 1 round Im sure.

Pacqauio would whip Mayorga's ass but he sure as hell wouldn't KO him in 1 round.

In any case, I like that 80% of people are going with the safe favorite and picking Cotto in some fashion. Good. I like rooting for the under dogs and Mayorga is my favorite fighter.

The more I've thought about it the more I've begun to see the fight as Mayorga imposing his size, will, and power on Cotto, landing hard shots and stopping Cotto in the middle or later rounds.

Cotto is hittable. More hittable than other fighters Mayorga has faced. Mayorga may overwhelm Cotto early a la the Ricardo Torres fight, but with Mayorga coming out on top. OR Mayorga could get taken out himself with a sharply timed counter by Cotto OR from a great body shot or series of body shots.

It looks to be a competitive fight. People are underestimating Mayorga a lot in this fight. This is his LAST chance to make a living, to set up one more super fight after this. This is his last shot at redemption.

[ross]

Pacqauio would whip Mayorga's ass but he sure as hell wouldn't KO him in 1 round.

In any case, I like that 80% of people are going with the safe favorite and picking Cotto in some fashion. Good. I like rooting for the under dogs and Mayorga is my favorite fighter.

The more I've thought about it the more I've begun to see the fight as Mayorga imposing his size, will, and power on Cotto, landing hard shots and stopping Cotto in the middle or later rounds.

Cotto is hittable. More hittable than other fighters Mayorga has faced. Mayorga may overwhelm Cotto early a la the Ricardo Torres fight, but with Mayorga coming out on top. OR Mayorga could get taken out himself with a sharply timed counter by Cotto OR from a great body shot or series of body shots.

It looks to be a competitive fight. People are underestimating Mayorga a lot in this fight. This is his LAST chance to make a living, to set up one more super fight after this. This is his last shot at redemption.

I watched a video on esnewsreporting.com, its Elie Seckbachs site. He was interviewing Doug Fischer from maxboxing and another bloke, they both took the safe pick but Doug contradicted himself by saying Cotto is easy to hit with uppercuts and overhand rights and thats what Mayorga is good at. He also said that he had spoken with Shane Mosley and interestingly he said that Mayorga is quicker than Cotto, I reckon he got that from Shane. What he did say that Shane told him is anyone who fights Mayorga has to watch out for the looping punches that land behind the ear and on top of the head and then those uppercuts. Mayorga hasnt stopped anyone decent for a while but he is so strong that his punches knock his opponents around the ring. He even did that with Oscar and Oscar actually told Shane that Mayorga has very heavey hands.Hes not a Trinidad, clean power type puncher but more a George Foreman bludgeoning type puncher. His punches will deffinitly be knocking Cotto around and I just dont see Cottos having as much of an effect on Mayorga as alot of easily led people here would have you believe.
Also for Mayorga to publcly lift his top to show off his physique, he must be proud of his training he has done. He wasnt as ripped as Manny but never will be at this weight but he was in better looking shape than the Mosley fight.

[Hulk]

Pacqauio would whip Mayorga's ass but he sure as hell wouldn't KO him in 1 round.

In any case, I like that 80% of people are going with the safe favorite and picking Cotto in some fashion. Good. I like rooting for the under dogs and Mayorga is my favorite fighter.

The more I've thought about it the more I've begun to see the fight as Mayorga imposing his size, will, and power on Cotto, landing hard shots and stopping Cotto in the middle or later rounds.

Cotto is hittable. More hittable than other fighters Mayorga has faced. Mayorga may overwhelm Cotto early a la the Ricardo Torres fight, but with Mayorga coming out on top. OR Mayorga could get taken out himself with a sharply timed counter by Cotto OR from a great body shot or series of body shots.

It looks to be a competitive fight. People are underestimating Mayorga a lot in this fight. This is his LAST chance to make a living, to set up one more super fight after this. This is his last shot at redemption.

I watched a video on esnewsreporting.com, its Elie Seckbachs site. He was interviewing Doug Fischer from maxboxing and another bloke, they both took the safe pick but Doug contradicted himself by saying Cotto is easy to hit with uppercuts and overhand rights and thats what Mayorga is good at. He also said that he had spoken with Shane Mosley and interestingly he said that Mayorga is quicker than Cotto, I reckon he got that from Shane. What he did say that Shane told him is anyone who fights Mayorga has to watch out for the looping punches that land behind the ear and on top of the head and then those uppercuts. Mayorga hasnt stopped anyone decent for a while but he is so strong that his punches knock his opponents around the ring. He even did that with Oscar and Oscar actually told Shane that Mayorga has very heavey hands.Hes not a Trinidad, clean power type puncher but more a George Foreman bludgeoning type puncher. His punches will deffinitly be knocking Cotto around and I just dont see Cottos having as much of an effect on Mayorga as alot of easily led people here would have you believe.
Also for Mayorga to publcly lift his top to show off his physique, he must be proud of his training he has done. He wasnt as ripped as Manny but never will be at this weight but he was in better looking shape than the Mosley fight.

Well with hard evidence like that we can now be sure Mayorga is going to win !
I'm with you though man. Lets keep our fingers crossed that Mayorga's power and unorthodox style can pull off the upset.

[TitoFan]

Pacqauio would whip Mayorga's ass but he sure as hell wouldn't KO him in 1 round.

In any case, I like that 80% of people are going with the safe favorite and picking Cotto in some fashion. Good. I like rooting for the under dogs and Mayorga is my favorite fighter.

The more I've thought about it the more I've begun to see the fight as Mayorga imposing his size, will, and power on Cotto, landing hard shots and stopping Cotto in the middle or later rounds.

Cotto is hittable. More hittable than other fighters Mayorga has faced. Mayorga may overwhelm Cotto early a la the Ricardo Torres fight, but with Mayorga coming out on top. OR Mayorga could get taken out himself with a sharply timed counter by Cotto OR from a great body shot or series of body shots.

It looks to be a competitive fight. People are underestimating Mayorga a lot in this fight. This is his LAST chance to make a living, to set up one more super fight after this. This is his last shot at redemption.

I watched a video on esnewsreporting.com, its Elie Seckbachs site. He was interviewing Doug Fischer from maxboxing and another bloke, they both took the safe pick but Doug contradicted himself by saying Cotto is easy to hit with uppercuts and overhand rights and thats what Mayorga is good at. He also said that he had spoken with Shane Mosley and interestingly he said that Mayorga is quicker than Cotto, I reckon he got that from Shane. What he did say that Shane told him is anyone who fights Mayorga has to watch out for the looping punches that land behind the ear and on top of the head and then those uppercuts. Mayorga hasnt stopped anyone decent for a while but he is so strong that his punches knock his opponents around the ring. He even did that with Oscar and Oscar actually told Shane that Mayorga has very heavey hands.Hes not a Trinidad, clean power type puncher but more a George Foreman bludgeoning type puncher. His punches will deffinitly be knocking Cotto around and I just dont see Cottos having as much of an effect on Mayorga as alot of easily led people here would have you believe.
Also for Mayorga to publcly lift his top to show off his physique, he must be proud of his training he has done. He wasnt as ripped as Manny but never will be at this weight but he was in better looking shape than the Mosley fight.

That was a well thought-out post, with quotes from 3rd parties, and no hint of hate for either fighter.
All of which leads me to say......








Who are you and what have you done with Ross?

(Pssssst.... whatever you did with him is fine. And welcome to the forum).

[Pavlik]

If Cotto managed to take punches from the best 1 punch ko artist in Mosley why can't he take shots from Mayorga.

[toe2toe]

By the way, presscons with Mayorga is always funny and interesting.

Ricardo Mayorga Reacts to Snub by Miguel Cotto

[No Contest]

Gotta go with Cotto. They say skill beats will and Cotto on his worst day is miles ahead of Mayorga in skill and for that matter will...Mayorga has become accustomed to losing the big ones and playing his role to a tee. Been there-done that and just spell my name right on the check Mr. Arum

Mayorgas only chance is to blitz him early. He has to shoot his load and know Cotto himself is boardering on spent shell status. Make him see ghosts. He's big, very physical and just don't give a fook but you really don't get to Cotto early, ya have to last and wear him out. Mayorga don't have the stamina or focus late.

Skill beats will?? You try telling Rocky Balboa that mister!

[ross]

If Cotto managed to take punches from the best 1 punch ko artist in Mosley why can't he take shots from Mayorga.

I dont think Mosley has ever been regarded as that? Cotto spent most of that fight like a crab, scuttling in his shell sideways along the ropes. Mosley spent the night waiting to land one punch, the over hand right. Look at Wright v Mosley, Mosley didnt have a clue there either against a very basic guard.

[BoxingGorilla]

I'm not sure what to make of this one. I have a feeling that I'm about to pay good money for a two round blow out. I doubt I'll order it. Afterall, I can watch Martinez-Dzinziruk for free.

Who can take Mayorga seriously at this point? He could win, but it would be a travesty if he did.

[MadboyHandsomeJR]

crazy old chain smoking mayorga by lucky ko punch 4th round

[Hulk]

I'm not sure what to make of this one. I have a feeling that I'm about to pay good money for a two round blow out. I doubt I'll order it. Afterall, I can watch Martinez-Dzinziruk for free.

Who can take Mayorga seriously at this point? He could win, but it would be a travesty if he did.

A travesty ?

It would be a triumph.

[Gandalf]

I'm not sure what to make of this one. I have a feeling that I'm about to pay good money for a two round blow out. I doubt I'll order it. Afterall, I can watch Martinez-Dzinziruk for free.

Who can take Mayorga seriously at this point? He could win, but it would be a travesty if he did.

A travesty ?

It would be a triumph.

It would be a delightful result and a real kick to the teeth of the establishment. Mayorga is old school like Johnny Rotten used to be. Nothing could thrill me more than to see an old underdog do a number on Cotto. And that is in no way being disrespectful to Cotto who I like a lot, but you have to support one of the fighters, you can't go looking for a simultaneous knockout or a draw. I'm always a sucker for the underdog and I've always liked Mayorga. Such a fun fighter and it is for those basic reasons that I want him to at least do well.