Haye Crap-Talking Thread

[Fenster]

Haye on ESB talking trash in an interview.

Apart from Haye saying he's gonna smash Wlad all over the shop, which is no different to Wlad saying he's gonna punish Haye for 12 rounds, where was the "trash" talk?

That was yet another series of honest, respectable answers from an obvious realist.

Anyone would think Haye just said he's better than Ali, Liston and Lewis, Cooper was a bum and refused to accept Solis beat him. He showed the utmost respect to all those guys.

If you feel like I am biased against Haye, for the last time, you are wrong. I am not a fan of certain boxers, but I'm not anti-Haye. I do believe his heavyweight stardom is a bit premature and that he gained a lot of his recognition from talking trash about the Klitschko's before he ever actaully stepped into the ring with one of them. However, for the most part, I don't single Haye out as worse than anyone else. Moreover, in the instant situation, hopefully Haye will build up a big heavyweight boxing match, which regardless of the outcome really, is good for the sport.

The point of this thread for me was to see how many times over the course of three months Haye denigrates his opponent. Over the last year and a half, he has repeatedly put down Wlad and Vitali, even when he is signed up to fight someone else. Now that he is finally set to fight one of them, I believe that his trash talking will reach astronomical levels. So far, he has proven my hypothesis correct, we are three months away (it's in June) from the fight and he is already talking heaps of rubbage about the Klitschkos.

The fact that he said he's "gonna smash Wlad all over the shop" constitutes trash-talking. Accordingly, it merits inclusion in a thread entitled "Haye Crap-Talking Thread."

OK, you just wanted to count how many times Haye says he's gonna beat a Klit?

Here's a bold prediction - from now until the end of their fight he will say it about 1 million times. Just like from now until the end of their fight, Wlad will say he will punish Haye 1 million times.

If you are waiting for either to pronounce their love for the other you have a long wait. Hope this helps.

[Mattyhitman]

"revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.

As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

Haye will beat him

[Gandalf]

"revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.

As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

(typical blinkered miles)

The interviewer asked him if he believes he can beat Wlad like Sanders did considering Haye shares the same blinding speed and power.

Haye said yes.

That makes Haye a delusional, horrible human being. Deary deary me....

Yeah, must take off the blinkers.

I appreciate the fuller context, but it is still pretty meaningless. Haye has never beaten a decent heavyweight in his prime.

He is going to get mashed much like a potato in preparation for a serving of mince and onion.

[Gandalf]

"revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.

As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

Haye will beat him

You say Haye will win because you are culturally biased. You want him to win and I understand that. The thing with me is that my cultural bias is pretty much eradicated.

Haye has lost in the Amateurs and also as a smaller pro, I use the plural for those reasons alone.

Wlad is not a great fighter by my reckoning, but Haye is nothing more than a jumped up CW who has feasted on a handful of easy fights. Wlad is too much of a technician. Haye will eat the jab and then get worn out.

I am not going to be won over by a motor mouth with dreadlocks, I would like to see some evidence first.

[Fenster]

"revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.

As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

(typical blinkered miles)

The interviewer asked him if he believes he can beat Wlad like Sanders did considering Haye shares the same blinding speed and power.

Haye said yes.

That makes Haye a delusional, horrible human being. Deary deary me....

Yeah, must take off the blinkers.

I appreciate the fuller context, but it is still pretty meaningless. Haye has never beaten a decent heavyweight in his prime.

He is going to get mashed much like a potato in preparation for a serving of mince and onion.

err.. so because the all-knowing miles believes Haye has no chance that means Haye should express that view also?

And you are accusing Haye of being arrogant. deary deary me....

[Gandalf]

"revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.

As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

(typical blinkered miles)

The interviewer asked him if he believes he can beat Wlad like Sanders did considering Haye shares the same blinding speed and power.

Haye said yes.

That makes Haye a delusional, horrible human being. Deary deary me....

Yeah, must take off the blinkers.

I appreciate the fuller context, but it is still pretty meaningless. Haye has never beaten a decent heavyweight in his prime.

He is going to get mashed much like a potato in preparation for a serving of mince and onion.

err.. so because the all-knowing miles believes Haye has no chance that means Haye should express that view also?

And you are accusing Haye of being arrogant. deary deary me....

Fenster, you are taking this far too seriously. I happen to think Haye is going to get diced like an onion, but sure Haye can say what he wants. That doesn't make me arrogant.

[Rantcatrat]

Haye on ESB talking trash in an interview.

Apart from Haye saying he's gonna smash Wlad all over the shop, which is no different to Wlad saying he's gonna punish Haye for 12 rounds, where was the "trash" talk?

That was yet another series of honest, respectable answers from an obvious realist.

Anyone would think Haye just said he's better than Ali, Liston and Lewis, Cooper was a bum and refused to accept Solis beat him. He showed the utmost respect to all those guys.

If you feel like I am biased against Haye, for the last time, you are wrong. I am not a fan of certain boxers, but I'm not anti-Haye. I do believe his heavyweight stardom is a bit premature and that he gained a lot of his recognition from talking trash about the Klitschko's before he ever actaully stepped into the ring with one of them. However, for the most part, I don't single Haye out as worse than anyone else. Moreover, in the instant situation, hopefully Haye will build up a big heavyweight boxing match, which regardless of the outcome really, is good for the sport.

The point of this thread for me was to see how many times over the course of three months Haye denigrates his opponent. Over the last year and a half, he has repeatedly put down Wlad and Vitali, even when he is signed up to fight someone else. Now that he is finally set to fight one of them, I believe that his trash talking will reach astronomical levels. So far, he has proven my hypothesis correct, we are three months away (it's in June) from the fight and he is already talking heaps of rubbage about the Klitschkos.

The fact that he said he's "gonna smash Wlad all over the shop" constitutes trash-talking. Accordingly, it merits inclusion in a thread entitled "Haye Crap-Talking Thread."

OK, you just wanted to count how many times Haye says he's gonna beat a Klit?

Here's a bold prediction - from now until the end of their fight he will say it about 1 million times. Just like from now until the end of their fight, Wlad will say he will punish Haye 1 million times.

I just find it amusing to see how much David Haye talks before this fight. You dont have to.

[Mattyhitman]

"revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.

As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

Haye will beat him

You say Haye will win because you are culturally biased. You want him to win and I understand that. The thing with me is that my cultural bias is pretty much eradicated.

Haye has lost in the Amateurs and also as a smaller pro, I use the plural for those reasons alone.

Wlad is not a great fighter by my reckoning, but Haye is nothing more than a jumped up CW who has feasted on a handful of easy fights. Wlad is too much of a technician. Haye will eat the jab and then get worn out.

I am not going to be won over by a motor mouth with dreadlocks, I would like to see some evidence first.

Haye has lost 1 pro fight, Wlad many more.

I appreciate your views and opinion, I think different to you on this, and its not just because im English. I simply think he has a good shot of beating him, plain and simple.

[Gandalf]

"revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.

As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

Haye will beat him

You say Haye will win because you are culturally biased. You want him to win and I understand that. The thing with me is that my cultural bias is pretty much eradicated.

Haye has lost in the Amateurs and also as a smaller pro, I use the plural for those reasons alone.

Wlad is not a great fighter by my reckoning, but Haye is nothing more than a jumped up CW who has feasted on a handful of easy fights. Wlad is too much of a technician. Haye will eat the jab and then get worn out.

I am not going to be won over by a motor mouth with dreadlocks, I would like to see some evidence first.

Haye has lost 1 pro fight, Wlad many more.

I appreciate your views and opinion, I think different to you on this, and its not just because im English. I simply think he has a good shot of beating him, plain and simple.

I am glad our Englishness is no obstacle, I don't mind you thinking differently. That's how nice I am. Seriously, it's a bunch of lads picking a fighter, it's all it is.

[AdamGB]

He lost as an Amature?! Gosh!!

I'm sorry... But losing as an Amature is only slightly less certain than death and taxes...

[El Kabong]

Haye has lost 1 pro fight, Wlad many more.

I appreciate your views and opinion, I think different to you on this, and its not just because im English. I simply think he has a good shot of beating him, plain and simple.

Wlad has also had 2 times as many fights as the WBA title holder.....and over 10 times as many fights at heavyweight (yes 10 times as many). You can give any opponent a shot at beating anyone, that's why they actually fight the fights (in most cases ) but the fact that Wlad is vastly more experienced, a natural heavyweight, technically superior, and will be the very first PRIME heavyweight (and power punching heavyweight) that that WBA title holder has set foot in the ring with gives me great confidence that this will be a very easy fight where at the end people will be wondering why the then former WBA title holder was allowed to fight Wladimir...yes the disparity in class is THAT significant

[Rantcatrat]

FIGHTHYPE \\ DAVID HAYE: "I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM UNCONSCIOUS, TWITCHING ON THE CANVAS"

[Rantcatrat]

Haye: I'll Give Wladimir Violent Flashbacks of Sanders! - Boxing News

[JazMerkin]

"revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.

As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

Haye will beat him

You say Haye will win because you are culturally biased. You want him to win and I understand that. The thing with me is that my cultural bias is pretty much eradicated.

Haye has lost in the Amateurs and also as a smaller pro, I use the plural for those reasons alone.

Wlad is not a great fighter by my reckoning, but Haye is nothing more than a jumped up CW who has feasted on a handful of easy fights. Wlad is too much of a technician. Haye will eat the jab and then get worn out.

I am not going to be won over by a motor mouth with dreadlocks, I would like to see some evidence first.

Hahaha, you're counting his amateur losses??!

Find a fighter who hasn't lost in the amateurs. Not to mention that Haye got to international stage as an amateur with absolutely fuck all fights (relatively) in Britain because so few other clubs wanted to put their boys in with him. So there was no shame in losing to Solis who had significantly more experience.

I'm all for fair criticism of which there is plenty of Haye, but trying to find things that justify it in an amateur fight is laughable.

Shit, Vitali got KO'd by Pele Reid in a kickboxing match, so let's see how we can extrapolate that to his next fight.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

"revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.

As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

Haye will beat him

You say Haye will win because you are culturally biased. You want him to win and I understand that. The thing with me is that my cultural bias is pretty much eradicated.

Haye has lost in the Amateurs and also as a smaller pro, I use the plural for those reasons alone.

Wlad is not a great fighter by my reckoning, but Haye is nothing more than a jumped up CW who has feasted on a handful of easy fights. Wlad is too much of a technician. Haye will eat the jab and then get worn out.

I am not going to be won over by a motor mouth with dreadlocks, I would like to see some evidence first.

Hahaha, you're counting his amateur losses??!

Find a fighter who hasn't lost in the amateurs. Not to mention that Haye got to international stage as an amateur with absolutely fuck all fights (relatively) in Britain because so few other clubs wanted to put their boys in with him. So there was no shame in losing to Solis who had significantly more experience.

I'm all for fair criticism of which there is plenty of Haye, but trying to find things that justify it in an amateur fight is laughable.

Shit, Vitali got KO'd by Pele Reid in a kickboxing match, so let's see how we can extrapolate that to his next fight.

A loss in a kickboxing match = .78 of a KO in boxing by my math. TBH though, I may have missed the carried one. Can someone check that for me?