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    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

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    Depends were this bias is on part of the 3 person.

    Audley is very much a paint by numbers boxer... A, then B, then C, the D etc...
    In his contest against Haye, this was as evident as it will ever get. The poor fucker couldn't even get off of 'A'.

    I'm sure Haye will execute a plan that will exploit Wladimir's repertoire and leave Wladimir a bit clueless, second guessing himself into committing anything for the early part of the fight. If he loses his head, he will loose his head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.
    (typical blinkered miles)

    The interviewer asked him if he believes he can beat Wlad like Sanders did considering Haye shares the same blinding speed and power.

    Haye said yes.

    That makes Haye a delusional, horrible human being. Deary deary me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.
    (typical blinkered miles)

    The interviewer asked him if he believes he can beat Wlad like Sanders did considering Haye shares the same blinding speed and power.

    Haye said yes.

    That makes Haye a delusional, horrible human being. Deary deary me....
    Yeah, must take off the blinkers.

    I appreciate the fuller context, but it is still pretty meaningless. Haye has never beaten a decent heavyweight in his prime.

    He is going to get mashed much like a potato in preparation for a serving of mince and onion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.
    (typical blinkered miles)

    The interviewer asked him if he believes he can beat Wlad like Sanders did considering Haye shares the same blinding speed and power.

    Haye said yes.

    That makes Haye a delusional, horrible human being. Deary deary me....
    Yeah, must take off the blinkers.

    I appreciate the fuller context, but it is still pretty meaningless. Haye has never beaten a decent heavyweight in his prime.

    He is going to get mashed much like a potato in preparation for a serving of mince and onion.
    err.. so because the all-knowing miles believes Haye has no chance that means Haye should express that view also?

    And you are accusing Haye of being arrogant. deary deary me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.
    (typical blinkered miles)

    The interviewer asked him if he believes he can beat Wlad like Sanders did considering Haye shares the same blinding speed and power.

    Haye said yes.

    That makes Haye a delusional, horrible human being. Deary deary me....
    Yeah, must take off the blinkers.

    I appreciate the fuller context, but it is still pretty meaningless. Haye has never beaten a decent heavyweight in his prime.

    He is going to get mashed much like a potato in preparation for a serving of mince and onion.
    err.. so because the all-knowing miles believes Haye has no chance that means Haye should express that view also?

    And you are accusing Haye of being arrogant. deary deary me....
    Fenster, you are taking this far too seriously. I happen to think Haye is going to get diced like an onion, but sure Haye can say what he wants. That doesn't make me arrogant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

    Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

    Haye will beat him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

    Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

    Haye will beat him
    You say Haye will win because you are culturally biased. You want him to win and I understand that. The thing with me is that my cultural bias is pretty much eradicated.

    Haye has lost in the Amateurs and also as a smaller pro, I use the plural for those reasons alone.

    Wlad is not a great fighter by my reckoning, but Haye is nothing more than a jumped up CW who has feasted on a handful of easy fights. Wlad is too much of a technician. Haye will eat the jab and then get worn out.

    I am not going to be won over by a motor mouth with dreadlocks, I would like to see some evidence first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

    Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

    Haye will beat him
    You say Haye will win because you are culturally biased. You want him to win and I understand that. The thing with me is that my cultural bias is pretty much eradicated.

    Haye has lost in the Amateurs and also as a smaller pro, I use the plural for those reasons alone.

    Wlad is not a great fighter by my reckoning, but Haye is nothing more than a jumped up CW who has feasted on a handful of easy fights. Wlad is too much of a technician. Haye will eat the jab and then get worn out.

    I am not going to be won over by a motor mouth with dreadlocks, I would like to see some evidence first.
    Haye has lost 1 pro fight, Wlad many more.

    I appreciate your views and opinion, I think different to you on this, and its not just because im English. I simply think he has a good shot of beating him, plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

    Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

    Haye will beat him
    You say Haye will win because you are culturally biased. You want him to win and I understand that. The thing with me is that my cultural bias is pretty much eradicated.

    Haye has lost in the Amateurs and also as a smaller pro, I use the plural for those reasons alone.

    Wlad is not a great fighter by my reckoning, but Haye is nothing more than a jumped up CW who has feasted on a handful of easy fights. Wlad is too much of a technician. Haye will eat the jab and then get worn out.

    I am not going to be won over by a motor mouth with dreadlocks, I would like to see some evidence first.
    Haye has lost 1 pro fight, Wlad many more.

    I appreciate your views and opinion, I think different to you on this, and its not just because im English. I simply think he has a good shot of beating him, plain and simple.

    I am glad our Englishness is no obstacle, I don't mind you thinking differently. That's how nice I am. Seriously, it's a bunch of lads picking a fighter, it's all it is.

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    He lost as an Amature?! Gosh!!

    I'm sorry... But losing as an Amature is only slightly less certain than death and taxes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Haye has lost 1 pro fight, Wlad many more.

    I appreciate your views and opinion, I think different to you on this, and its not just because im English. I simply think he has a good shot of beating him, plain and simple.

    Wlad has also had 2 times as many fights as the WBA title holder.....and over 10 times as many fights at heavyweight (yes 10 times as many). You can give any opponent a shot at beating anyone, that's why they actually fight the fights (in most cases ) but the fact that Wlad is vastly more experienced, a natural heavyweight, technically superior, and will be the very first PRIME heavyweight (and power punching heavyweight) that that WBA title holder has set foot in the ring with gives me great confidence that this will be a very easy fight where at the end people will be wondering why the then former WBA title holder was allowed to fight Wladimir...yes the disparity in class is THAT significant

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "revert back to type" simply means under pressure people return to doing what they do naturally. This is very common and perfectly understandable.
    As an expression it is perfectly understandable, but in the context of this fight it is meaningless.

    Is Wlad going to be under pressure? Haye circled The Yeti for 12 rounds and threw a dozen punches per round. He wouldn't even open up against Audley Harrison. And now he is going to revert Wlad Klit back to type?

    It would make sense only in terms of Haye's previous losses really, but I guess Haye was probably not talking about himself.

    This goes into the Haye crap talking thread with ease.

    Haye has only lost 1 fight bud, so using the plural is a little unfair. Also haye broke his hand in the 2nd or 3rd of the fight with Valuev, so the tactic was maybe determined by that, also add to the fact he was so much bigger. Why stand toe 2 toe with a beast like that and risk getting sparked. Haye will use his speed and reactions againts Wlad no doubt, but to say he has no agility and is too small, got to disagree with bud.

    Haye will beat him
    You say Haye will win because you are culturally biased. You want him to win and I understand that. The thing with me is that my cultural bias is pretty much eradicated.

    Haye has lost in the Amateurs and also as a smaller pro, I use the plural for those reasons alone.

    Wlad is not a great fighter by my reckoning, but Haye is nothing more than a jumped up CW who has feasted on a handful of easy fights. Wlad is too much of a technician. Haye will eat the jab and then get worn out.

    I am not going to be won over by a motor mouth with dreadlocks, I would like to see some evidence first.
    Hahaha, you're counting his amateur losses??!

    Find a fighter who hasn't lost in the amateurs. Not to mention that Haye got to international stage as an amateur with absolutely fuck all fights (relatively) in Britain because so few other clubs wanted to put their boys in with him. So there was no shame in losing to Solis who had significantly more experience.

    I'm all for fair criticism of which there is plenty of Haye, but trying to find things that justify it in an amateur fight is laughable.

    Shit, Vitali got KO'd by Pele Reid in a kickboxing match, so let's see how we can extrapolate that to his next fight.

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