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    Default Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    ....and does Marciano beat them ALL?

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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    Aint many to choose from mate to be honest
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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    just watched round 6 of Marciano's last fight, 9-21-1955. Rocky threw 123 punches in that round, 117 were power punches and only 6 jabs!

    He connected on 51 of the 123 punches, and scored 2 knockdowns of Archie Moore. It is an amazing round.

    This will show rds 5,6, and 7. Going into the 6th round Moore was ahead 48-46 on my 10-point must scoring, and had sliced Rocky's nose badly giving him breathing trouble, cut him under the left eye, and had swollen-up Rocky's left eye pretty well.
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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    just watched round 6 of Marciano's last fight, 9-21-1955. Rocky threw 123 punches in that round, 117 were power punches and only 6 jabs!

    He connected on 51 of the 123 punches, and scored 2 knockdowns of Archie Moore. It is an amazing round.

    This will show rds 5,6, and 7. Going into the 6th round Moore was ahead 48-46 on my 10-point must scoring, and had sliced Rocky's nose badly giving him breathing trouble, cut him under the left eye, and had swollen-up Rocky's left eye pretty well.
    ....and Moore was only about 40 and had only had 175 fights and 20 losses by then
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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    Well I think Bob Foster deserves a shout out in this group...he fought at 175 and at heavyweight. I also think a Marciano-Foster match up would have been pretty epic, hypothetically speaking of course...I think Foster's chin fails before Rocky's though.

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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    Michael Spinks
    Roy Jones maybe

    Kind of a wired weight ay? Erm,Enzo Maccarinelli?!
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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    ....and does Marciano beat them ALL?
    I take it you mean light heavyweight?

    Charles
    Jones
    Moore
    Spinks
    Tunney
    Conn
    Bivins
    Loughran
    Muhammed
    Foster

    You?

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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    Michael Spinks was a beast at Light Heavyweight, he went toe to toe with Yaqui Lopez and won a war. Also his KO over Marvin Johnson was excellent, Michael Spinks has got to be one of the most underrated fighters because he got blew away by Mike Tyson.

    Also Qawi, Muhammad, two of the most action packed Light Heavyweight's. Great fighters and they produced some classic fights.

    You don't get Light Heavyweight's like those anymore.

    As for the topic yes i believe there's quite a few, who could easily challenge Rocky Marciano and win.

    Some fighters who would have a good chance at there best, between Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight.

    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Michael Spinks
    Ezzard Charles
    Archie Moore
    Evander Holyfield
    Floyd Patterson
    Bob Foster
    Roy Jones Jr
    Billy Conn
    Michael Moorer

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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    Marciano beat Moore, Charles. Qawi wouldn't have had a prayer, unless you think a mediocre fighter, at best, is going to stand in a slug with one of the top heavyweights. Holyfield at cruiser wouldn't beat Marciano; Conn fought Louis at 174, and Moorer's chin would let him down.
    At this weight- 185- I think it really comes down to 2 guys, and, honestly, I'm suprised nobody mentioned it, as this would have to be one of the all-time dream, who would win if matches: Dempsey vs Marciano.
    Though Dempsey did occasionally weigh 195-200, the majority of his fights were in the 185-190 range.

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    Gene Tunney and Harry Greb would have had the best chances vs Rocky.

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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    nobody had a chance against the italian immigrant maniac "airplane propeller" who never tired. sometimes you just have to believe it.

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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Gene Tunney and Harry Greb would have had the best chances vs Rocky.
    I almost included Greb but stuck to lh

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    Default Re: Top 10 all-time 185 lb. fighters?

    I think my top ten 185 and unders would include the following (in no order)

    Langford
    Fitzsimmons
    Tunney
    Ezzard
    Foster
    Conn
    Evander
    Dempsey
    Moore
    Spinks

    Now Rocky beat two of them, so while both were probably past their peaks, tought to reverse those.
    Langford is where I think the rules under which they fight are extremely important. In a 25 round fight? As fit as Rocky was, nobody could sustain that pace that long. In a 15 rounder? Either Sam stops him on cuts or the Rock wins a decision. Fitzsimmons hung in there with Jim Jffries as an old man, but when Jeff turned up the heat Fitz was just too small. Same thing happenes here I think. Tunney is a toughie for the Rock. Could he have just stayed away and jabbed for 15? Same with Billy Conn. Tunney? Maybe. Conn gets stuipid and Rocky drills him late. Bob Foster and Spinks get blown away. They just didn't have a heavyweight's chin. Evander and Dempsey would both be "we need to have an ambulance in both corners" kind of fights. Just brutal, brutal affairs.

    I think Tunney and Langford are probably the toughest style matchups and Evander and Dempsey would be gladitorial contests where I fear to pick a winner.

    I will say that the more footage of Marciano one watches the more impressed one must be. Despite his rep for being awkward? he was amazingly strong, monumentally fit and while technically inconsistent? When he did things correctly? The result was a bolt of lightning. Watch the double shuffle that gets him to the right distance to KO Walcott or the double hook that destroys Kid Matthews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Well I think Bob Foster deserves a shout out in this group...he fought at 175 and at heavyweight. I also think a Marciano-Foster match up would have been pretty epic, hypothetically speaking of course...I think Foster's chin fails before Rocky's though.
    Yup. As otherworldly as the Sheriff was at 175, when he got in their with heavies who could punch that's what seemed to happen didn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    nobody had a chance against the italian immigrant maniac "airplane propeller" who never tired. sometimes you just have to believe it.
    In these kinds of matchups the rules would make a big difference. Make them 12 round fights and the fast movers have more of a shot. Fifteen rounders really favor the Rock.
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