Who are the top 10 p4p fighters of all time?

[rjj tszyu]

I'd like to know other peoples opinions on who are the best p4p fighters of all time. I have my own top ten as follows.If anyone disagrees with who I have in my top 10 Im sure you will let me know

1) Sugar Ray Robinson! (It just has to be)
2) Henry Armstrong
3) Muhammad Ali
4) Willie Pep
5) Sugar Ray Leonard
6) Joe Louis
7) Roy Jones Jr
Marvelous Marvin Hagler
9) Archie Moore
10) Aaron Pryor

[LEGION]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. would have to be in that list somewhere, maybe not now but at the end of his career he'll be in that list for sure.

[zhubin]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. would have to be in that list somewhere, maybe not now but at the end of his career he'll be in that list for sure.

I completely disagree. No doubt Floyd is a great fighter. But even if he closes out his career with wins over Hatton, Cotto, and Mosley...he will not be in the top 10.

[rjj tszyu]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. would have to be in that list somewhere, maybe not now but at the end of his career he'll be in that list for sure.

I think that by the time he does retire he will be in my list just not yet!

[Deanrw]

Where is Roberto Duran? At Lightweight, he was simply pure destruction.



Archie Moore? He was simply too hot and cold, got beaten too many times.

Roy Jones Jr.? Not in my book. He did not prove his legacy against other greats.

Willie Pep? Sandy Saddler beat him in 3 of 4 matches.

[rjj tszyu]

Where is Roberto Duran? At Lightweight, he was simply pure destruction.



Archie Moore? He was simply too hot and cold, got beaten too many times.

Roy Jones Jr.? Not in my book. He did not prove his legacy against other greats.

Willie Pep? Sandy Saddler beat him in 3 of 4 matches.

Duran was a great fighter but to me he was just too much of a brawler to be in this list because as Leonard showed in the second and third fights, if you kept to a boxing text book he was very beatable.

Archie Moore is in there for me because the earliest official weigh in I can find is 145lb which would be welterweight and he was still holding his own at heavyweight against the likes of Marciano just short of his 42nd Birthday. Also i dont believe he ever lost the light heavy title.

Roy Jones Jr beat only a couple of great fighters Toney and Hopkins. Then he has a decent list of good fighters he beat. But the reason ive got him in here is the style in which he beat them all, I mean the man used to win every single round of every single fight. surely that has to give him a shout?

And finally Pep.Yes Saddler beat him 3 of 4 fights but i believe that he was just the man that could beat him like Junior Jones was to Barrera. I think that in defensive boxing there has never been anyone as good as Pep and that is the reason hes in there.

[Spicoli]

I'd like to know other peoples opinions on who are the best p4p fighters of all time. I have my own top ten as follows.If anyone disagrees with who I have in my top 10 Im sure you will let me know

1) Sugar Ray Robinson! (It just has to be)
2) Henry Armstrong
3) Muhammad Ali
4) Willie Pep
5) Sugar Ray Leonard
6) Joe Louis
7) Roy Jones Jr
Marvelous Marvin Hagler
9) Archie Moore
10) Aaron Pryor

sorry dude but right off the top..Jones jr. off....Pryor off...Hagler off...This Is Top ten ALL time Right ??
Roberto duran on,Harry greb On,Micky walker on,sugar ray leonard off . Just my opinion,and I know alot of people are not big on Rating fighters they havent actually seen on the screen.But history texts and bios are not obsolete yet LOl.Threads like this can get vicious so good effort.

[VictorCharlie]

These lists are hard to figure. Not everyone judges off the same category. I agree that Duran was a tremendous LW, but the parts of his career that people remeber were not at 135. We could use the same logic on Evander. One of the most dominant and greatest cruisers of all time, but P4P top 10? Probably not. I think you have to judge on pure talent alone not record, championships or legacy. That being said RJJ is arguably one of the most talented fighters to ever get in the ring and would probably make it on my list

[SweetPea]

I rank them more in tiers than actually by numbers...

Tier I (The clear Top 2):
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali

Tier II:
3/4. Joe Louis and Henry Armstrong (in either order)
5/6. Roberto Duran and Willie Pep (in either order)

Tier III (no particular order)
Sugar Ray Leonard, Pernell Whitaker, Carlos Monzon, Benny Leonard

[CutMeMick]

I'd like to know other peoples opinions on who are the best p4p fighters of all time. I have my own top ten as follows.If anyone disagrees with who I have in my top 10 Im sure you will let me know

1) Sugar Ray Robinson! (It just has to be)
2) Henry Armstrong
3) Muhammad Ali
4) Willie Pep
5) Sugar Ray Leonard
6) Joe Louis
7) Roy Jones Jr
Marvelous Marvin Hagler
9) Archie Moore
10) Aaron Pryor

1st and foremost heres CC#1 on me and Welcome to Casa De Saddo where your opinion is sure to be crushed by some drunk.
(WackOff3205 and or SalTheButcher)
2nd your list Pryro, RJJ, Moore & Hagler IMO don't belong in the top 10.

Look at these names and think and see if they have an arguement at being top 10:
Pernell
Duran
Monzon
'Finito' Lopez
JCC
Arguello

[DaxxKahn]

This is why I hate these post...Nothing to do with you rjj tszyu....Is just that no matter how good of a list a guy comes up with and how much of a quality arguement you make to support your theory the list is going to get tore up on....

Truth is once you start talking about fighters of such an elite caliber...it is more a matter of opinion then anything.....

EG- lets say you were making a list of the all time greatest HWts---the norm is Joe Louis and Ali are at 1 and 2 it just depends on whos list. When you put them into light either man could have beaten either depending on whos night it was at the time of the fight.

[Mr140]

1. Suger Ray Robinson
2. Henary Armstrong
3. Willie Pep
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Roberto Duran
6. Benny leonard
7. Harry Greb
8. Joe Louis
9. Gene Tunney
10. Suger Ray Leonard

Pound for Pound is something i do not like because it does not give heavyweight divison credit

[Kel]

It's always the older fighters........

[Mr140]

Well we could make seprate list the old timers meaning the 30's and back then after that we can make it the same maybe make it the 50's and back then make the other list newer fighter that would work

[FBEAR]

I'd like to know other peoples opinions on who are the best p4p fighters of all time. I have my own top ten as follows.If anyone disagrees with who I have in my top 10 Im sure you will let me know

1) Sugar Ray Robinson! (It just has to be)
2) Henry Armstrong
3) Muhammad Ali
4) Willie Pep
5) Sugar Ray Leonard
6) Joe Louis
7) Roy Jones Jr
Marvelous Marvin Hagler
9) Archie Moore
10) Aaron Pryor

sorry dude but right off the top..Jones jr. off....Pryor off...Hagler off...This Is Top ten ALL time Right ??
Roberto duran on,Harry greb On,Micky walker on,sugar ray leonard off . Just my opinion,and I know alot of people are not big on Rating fighters they havent actually seen on the screen.But history texts and bios are not obsolete yet LOl.Threads like this can get vicious so good effort.

sorry dude but right off the top Duran goes back off ( he's very good but imo it's more about his badass image. top 20 sure but top five as some have him, not a chance) leanard outranks duran and goes back on. Arguello is another guy who is every bit as deserving as duran. good effort though