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Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
No, the government is getting it wrong and ignoring all the reasons behind why Britain is such a mess. Sure it might look good "Ooh, we are tough on rioters and those who raised people who would riot", but it's silly. The family are not to blame directly. Give the kid 2 years in prison and a prison without all the comforts that prisons have today. We need to be tough on crime once again and attacking extended family is not going about it in the right way.

Give police officers power, let teachers use a cane and stop giving council housing to teenage mothers. Things will start to change, these stop gap short term actions just piss off more of the vermin class riff raff. It solves nothing.
I disagreed that the family is not to be blamed for this. The mother did not raise her son right. She failed as a parent to instill any sense of morals or responsibility in that little hellraiser. She let him run the streets at any time of the day to cause mayhem and destruction on the livelihoods of innocent people. In short, she was a shitty parent that didn't instill any values in him.

Should she and her daughter be kicked out of the council home? No I wouldn't go that far, but she failed as a parent. Any sense of character, any sense of morality or responsibility is first instilled at home. That's where it starts first. The mother should not be absolved of any responsibility. And where the hell is the kid's father?
No, I disagree. It is not completely down to the family. It is a factor, but there are many other factors at play too. You cannot force a child to be good. Maybe you do your best as a parent, but if your child starts hanging out with other hoodlums, it isn't easy to reign back in control of your child. Not that's to say that is what happened, but it is one way for a child to become lost from your control.

You tackle wider social problems and you come down hard in those who directly go against what are consider to be the greater interests of society at large. Stick this kid in a gulag for a year, but leave the mother who did not riot alone.

And sure, where is the father? All AWOL fathers need to be held to account.