Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
No way you are smokin some shit bro...Kirkland got ktfo by Ishida..come on now FFS. Ortiz drew against the now 140lb champion so in hindsight now..it wasnt bad at all. Plus most thought he won anyway.

Kirkland beats Angulo who shot his load early in the first round where as Ortiz beats the best welterweight apart from MM and Pac.

Totally different kettle of fish..Canelo for me is a tougher fight than Kirkland all day long. BUT he doesnt even wanna fight Canelo so really this is all pointless chat. (although its looking like that will be his only choice or Cotto)
Angulo just beat the guy who was thought of as the next big thing at 154 in Angulo, Ortiz got demolished against Maidana who went on to get his ass torn up by a small blown up old Erik Morales, don't try and play it in favor of Floyd, facts are facts

and how the hell is Canelo tougher when Canelo struggled against a smaller limited Alfonso Gomez...