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I see nothing wrong with that, he was merely voicing his stance on the issue. I share his views on the matter, but not basing it on religion like he does. Unless he goes out of his way to directly prevent a gay couple from being married, why should anyone be offended? Aren't the gay community demanding others to be more tolerant on their views? Why can't they practice what they preach when it comes to this issue? He was asked a question and he answered it truthfully unlike most politicians nowadays who'd just jump on the popular social/religious/political view bandwagons despite believing otherwise merely to attract more voters (I'm looking at you Obama). He didn't come of as inciting hatred nor did he preach or sound condescending.
Tolerance means accepting the rights of consensual homosexual adults who demand the same treatment by law as heterosexual couples. Pac's statement was based upon hate, there is no other reason to discriminate against homosexuals. People make laws for other people. There is no such thing as God's law which Pac seemingly refers to. The fictional God was a vengeful and hateful type and thus man made words accredited to him should be ignored.

Gay's have every right to be disappointed with Manny Pac and likewise anyone who thinks in such a philistine manner.
Tolerance doesn't mean acceptance. Why would you need to tolerate something you already approve of? It means the practice of permitting something that a person disapproves of and being fair and objective about it. So far, Pac in his stance/statements has been exactly that. As far as I know he never discriminated a person based on his sexual preference nor prevented and denied gay people from marrying each other. He even has a number of gay people employed in his businesses and I never heard him say offensive homophobic words like f*ggot (I'm looking at you... oh never mind).

So what you are implying is that anyone who disapproves gay marriage should be lambasted and vilified by the gay community and their supporters? I don't approve of it, but I don't hate gays for being who they are. I never held grudges nor condemned them to eternal damnation for marrying each other. You need to disassociate the words disapproval with hatred as they don't always go hand in hand with each other. I have a number of gay friends and in all honesty never gave an arse of what they do with each other as long as they keep it to themselves. If I tell them I am against them marrying each other, and knowing these people, I know they would take no offense to my personal beliefs as long as I keep it that way, personal.
I believe that anyone in the gay community has every right to be angry at Manny for what he said. Of course so. Our words and beliefs are what shape us and in expressing such sentiments Manny has shown himself to be prejudiced against a minority group. It is like saying that blacks shouldn't be allowed to marry whites or rich people marry poor people. People above a certain age should be free to marry whomever they like as long as it is consensual. It is blatant discrimination to be against gay marriage. Any open minded person should be for gay marriage and a book like the Bible is irrelevant to the argument. Society constructs laws, not religion.

People should get called out when they fuck up. It's happened to me in the past and Manny seems to be doing it now. Thus he is getting called out. The only way for Manny to redeem himself is to sleep with Buboy in a future 24/7.
Youve gotta admit though. It would be great to be totally religous. knowing that when you die your gonna go to a place of pure bliss. Im not religous unfortunately. Might get me one of those. I was gonna go buddhist but cant eat meat. Muslim has too many rules. Christian but read the bible and that god guy scares the shit out of me. You would have to be really narrow minded to be mormon but I do like there stance on marrage. In the end the only one I could see myself doing is Jedi. I already have a toy lightsaber and im pretty sure that i made a pencil role with my mind the other day.