So Pacquiao in a spot of bother..states he "disagrees" with same sex marriage..

[Leighton]

Do we really care what a boxer thinks about this? Seriously? Lets talk about boxing here.

As a former forum gay, I feel I need to defend these issues. It should be Bilbo's job as the reigning gay, but he ran away and seeing as he would likely defend Pacquiao, I should put forth my 2012 campaign in uncompromising terms.

I kinda understrand how u feel mr Gandalf. Even though I am not gay I am and for most of my life been a fat dude. But I find myself going the opposite direction when it comes to friends. The last thing I would want is my friends tiptoeing around me trying to avoid words that would offend me. I love the banter we have between each other. Some are gay, black, fat etc and we poke fun at one another even though we dont find anything wrong with one another its just steriotype jokes.
The problem with what Pac done is he came out and opposed it seriosly in puplic. When you are famous you have a certain influence on people and you can end up pushing your views on them just because they idolise you so much.
If someone I didnt know came out and said in public they dissagreed with fat people and said they were discusting then I would probably take offence. But not that much. Hearing it all my life it kinda dont bother me any more. But I dont think other people who do not want to put up with it should have to.

[arcanum26]

Do we really care what a boxer thinks about this? Seriously? Lets talk about boxing here.

As a former forum gay, I feel I need to defend these issues. It should be Bilbo's job as the reigning gay, but he ran away and seeing as he would likely defend Pacquiao, I should put forth my 2012 campaign in uncompromising terms.

I kinda understrand how u feel mr Gandalf. Even though I am not gay I am and for most of my life been a fat dude. But I find myself going the opposite direction when it comes to friends. The last thing I would want is my friends tiptoeing around me trying to avoid words that would offend me. I love the banter we have between each other. Some are gay, black, fat etc and we poke fun at one another even though we dont find anything wrong with one another its just steriotype jokes.
The problem with what Pac done is he came out and opposed it seriosly in puplic. When you are famous you have a certain influence on people and you can end up pushing your views on them just because they idolise you so much.
If someone I didnt know came out and said in public they dissagreed with fat people and said they were discusting then I would probably take offence. But not that much. Hearing it all my life it kinda dont bother me any more. But I dont think other people who do not want to put up with it should have to.

I don't agree with your statement that he came out and opposed it seriously in public. He was asked a question and Pacquiao being the bumbling religious zealot that he is, answered it honestly and straight to the point. He was against it because it's not in line with his religion. That's it. He never went on a rant about how disgusting gays are nor tried to influence others and sway them to his own views. If he is the homophobic, hate mongering person that the gay community and their supporters seem to be implying, then they should rightfully castigate Manny. However, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that would support this case other than Pac voicing his disapproval of other people's beliefs. All of us disapprove of many things be they social/political/religious issues. All of us. It's perfectly fine and normal. What's not fine is when you become a walking talking intolerant hate machine. Has Pac exhibited such a behavior? I rest my case.

[imp]

For once im on pacs side and not mayweathers.
God made adam and eve..not adam and steve.
You cant compare homosexuality with culture or skin colour. Pac might not have directly attacked gays but i respect his views and agree with his stance.

[Althugz]

Haha I guess one of my friends was right - he always said "never discuss 2 things if you dont want things to get heated..Politics and religion"

I guess I broke two of his rules together. While it's not heated, every single one of us has a strong stance.

[Gandalf]

I would just like to point out that I am not a homosexual and that the forum gay contest is just a bit of banter between men who like boxing. I was having a laugh in the previous post about forum gays.

All I really see is ignorance. 'God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve'. So the automatic ignorant and arrogant notion that God is mans creator and created man in his own image and gave women tits and chopped off the willy. It has no credence nor foundation in scientific theory. It is a silly attitude towards life.

The issue of colour is also a perfectly valid one. Attitudes changes and can do so very quickly. Just 50 years ago to commit a homosexual act was a crime and now the issue of gay marriage is circling around the agenda. Social change is bigger than the Bible and so it should be. Society is a functioning evolving form whilst the Bible is a silly old book written by men who couldn't separate fact from fantasy.

It says a lot when so many still use it as their very own self help manual.

[arcanum26]

Someone here nailed it, like religion, homosexuality is an option. Why not start a gay religion with all the beliefs you have and go marry each other or anything you like and hope that after a century or so half of the world belongs to that religion. I'm sure there will be politicians on that 'gay religion' can pass a law that allows you to marry your gay bride or gay broom.

Sometimes, tolerance is just bad. Like a chronic disease it goes worse. When the public started accepting gays, they demanded to be married. Whereas in places where it is still considered taboo, it is not even issue. Right now fucking and 'falling in love' with your relatives is taboo. But if some influential personality dares to change the world and we start to think it's cool and we start tolerating it, you bet them practitioners will ask for more like - I want to marry my grandfather! And when you disagree with them because your religion says it's wrong they will crucify you!

First off, the "gay broom" part had me laughing. I know it was an unintentional error on your part but it really made me chuckle. Hey, maybe someday some nutjob out there would start advocating getting married with inanimate objects, a broom being an obvious candidate. On a more serious note, spot on analogy with the marrying your own relatives part.

[bestjabwins]

I can't subscribe to the current trendy vehemence towards religion demonstrated by some people nowadays, but it doesn't help when people come out with statements like 'adam and steve' and 'the bible says..blah blah'. I'm not opposed to the notion of God but you might as quote Mein Kampf for your morality, as the Bible is proven to have just about the same lack of credibility.
Personally I could care less about taboo. Its taboo in Saudi arabia for women to drive, so what? doesn't make it right, although not everyone might agree. Its also taboo for women to wear revealing clothes in Saudi, which people in the West laugh at until you consider that we arrest people for walking around naked, which demonstrates exactly the same mentality. I digress, but it is better to tolerate. Where gays are not tolerated they are often subject to murder and beatings.Also, I don't have a problem if someone wants to marry their grandfather. Why?, because a book i read says its ok.

[jon09]

Pac should have said... F#@K those faggots I just wanna knock motherf@ckers out. Or the infamous (TYSON quote) I'm gonna fu*k you til you love me faggot. Civilization is becoming a bunch of soft whimpering , complaining pansies anymore. Just getting sick of double standards and hypocrisy.

[:::PSL:::]

God created Adam and Miles.

[Violent Demise]

I gained a lot of respect for Pac when I first read his comments. Than he reminded me what a biitch he really is when said he was misquoted and didn't really say that

[miron_lang]

Is it bad when you oppose a law allowing relatives to get married?

like Brothers and Sisters or Daughters and Uncles?

[Gandalf]

Marrying in the family leads to inbred offspring, gay marriage on the other hand is far safer and better for an overpopulated world too.

[Andre]

Anyone stupid enough to want to get married should be allowed to. Same goes for cliff jumping.

[Althugz]

Anyone stupid enough to want to get married should be allowed to. Same goes for cliff jumping.

Haha! I don't regret starting this thread. Hilarious stuff

[Fenster]

Marrying in the family leads to inbred offspring, gay marriage on the other hand is far safer and better for an overpopulated world too.

Good point.

It actually makes perfect sense.