Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
Vitali came back in 2008, I guess you didn't want me to count 2 of the 3 fights Wladimir had that year because they happened before October of that year

OK so Wlad & Vitali hurt each other because they are fighting different opponents? Well you DO realize that the ratings of the different sanctioning bodies are different right? I mean that's NOT lost on you is it? Who has fought better competition recently Is it Vitali or Wlad or don't you know? You seem to be easily confused right now.

If you're not suggesting they fight each other what RATIONAL idea to do you have in mind?
1. Pay attention. What came before Vitali's comeback is irrelevant to my point.

2. The ratings from different sanctioning bodies throw up different opponents? That is EXACTLY the point i've been making. If you are limited to a certain amount of opponents per division, how can you ever establish yourself as THE best? You can't. Unless you defeat your independently recognised closest challenger.

3. This is a real simple way to understand this - If Haye beat Wlad he would be THE best heavyweight on the planet, right? Who would Haye have been expected to fight next? Vitali!!! Why? Because Vitali is the next best.

Wlad has a luxury that basically no other fighter in history has. He's a good "champion." But his brother is a major factor in his career.