i actually fully believe with everyone at their best both klitschkos beat tyson... tyson was too mad and wild to beat wlad... well wlad would need a ref that wasnt on tysons side but i dont see how he would lose to tyson... tyson comes at him wlad leans on him gets the left hand going... slows tyson down and stops him late... wladimir at his best can take a punch and is too smart to fold after one punch in my opinion if he gets hit with a biggish shot he just ties up the smaller tyson leans on him tires him out and eventually starts landing and once he gets the left hook and right straight going tyson is finished....... as for tyson v vitali... tyson should just be happy he never had to go into that fight... in my opinion vitali wins with ease... he just has to much physically and mentally for crazy small tyson