Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
This is a topic I have been looking into a little. The very term denial would indicate that you are saying something didn't happen, that you refute something existed, but most revisionists openly accept that the holocaust existed. It is just that they dispute certain aspects of the traditional claims and in some respects have been proven correct. Initial claims of 4 million Jews killed at Aushwitz were revised down to 1.1 million. Not a small number and it makes you wonder.

I have also been following the story of David Cole, an intelligent young man who raised some interesting questions about traditional historical claims about the holocaust. Money was offered by the Jewish Defense League for information about where Cole lived and seemingly Cole went into hiding. A few years later he retracted all of his former views apparently of his own volition.

Clearly in some nations it is a crime to deny the holocaust. Well, actually it is a crime to even question the extent of the holocaust. Nobody is denying the holocaust, but merely questioning the lack of evidence concerning numbers and documents supporting key elements. This should not be a crime and to classify it as such is Orwellian in nature.

It seems that a holocaust denier is anyone who questions official accounts of the holcaust. Obviously revisionist is a far more apt term. Just as you critizise the terrorism of Israel and become an anti-semite, you criticize the lack of evidence on the holocaust and become a denier.

It just sounds more extreme than the so called deniers themselves. Thoughts?

It seems that you wish to avoid being labelled as a Holocaust Denier. You wish to be seen as a revisionist. I presume then, that you do not seek to deny the accepted definition of the Holocaust and merely to revise this universally accepted depiction. You are not employing misdirection or trying to pull the wool over our eyes whilst tickling your own ears? We will dismiss the tidal wave of evidence provided by eyewitnesses and survivors, historians and observers because the controversial nature of such, renders them as nothing more than Pro Israeli propaganda, for use in justifying the establishment of the state of Israel. Your important breakthroughs in this historical field of research have been overwhelmingly convincing and thorough, and you have in no way tried to stifle debate or ignore all evidence to the contrary by using a device in which anyone disagreeing with you is portrayed as an Orwellian hook nosed baddy accusing you of mean things like anti-Semitism ?

Seriously now, Are you sure your parents were not Zionists like Chomskys ? Are you so desperate to blame Israel for everything that you have stooped to inventing claims on behalf of the Jews in order to discredit them? Is it you that is the victim for being wrongly labelled a denier and not the millions whose suffering you seek to diminish by minimising such an atrocity?