Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
2 votes so far put him in the top 10 ever? haha. is that a joke.

im somebody who never used to give wlad credit but i give him a lot more credit now than i used to. he is nowhere near top 10 ever though. my main argument is that he started dominating once the competition died out. no more lewis, tua, ruiz (yes, i just said ruiz), holyfield (even an older holyfield), or even a prime rahman. there are a few other alright HWs at that time but im not going to take time to check out who i missed.

my point being that he lost to lesser opposition earlier in his career. and some of these fights were when he was a vetran like against sanders and brewster. he had quite a few years experience under his belt at the time of those losses. then the loss he should have had that people forget about is davaryll williamson who knocked him down with a jab and then the fight was stopped due to a headbutt i think. anyways, williamson should have gotten the decision but they gave it to wlad.

i admit that he did get better since that time due to manny working with him, but since then, he hasnt actually fought one fighter i would consider "good." the best fighter he faced was haye and he isnt a HW and ran most of the fight. i actually probably rank him higher on this list because of his accomplishments rather than where i think he actually deserves to be.
Very well said and pretty much how I feel. Although I think I give Wlad a lil more credit than you do, but not by much.

He's a different fighter than he was in the Sanders and Brewster fights. Much more confident and effective.

The Davarryl Williamson fight was a shit show and sham with stopping the fight before Wlad most likely was KO'd.

Again he's progressed a lot since then, but these things did happen.