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  • as the #1 ATG heavyweight

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    2 4.65%
  • 6 to 10

    11 25.58%
  • 11 to 15

    10 23.26%
  • 16 to 25

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    Default Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

    2 votes so far put him in the top 10 ever? haha. is that a joke.

    im somebody who never used to give wlad credit but i give him a lot more credit now than i used to. he is nowhere near top 10 ever though. my main argument is that he started dominating once the competition died out. no more lewis, tua, ruiz (yes, i just said ruiz), holyfield (even an older holyfield), or even a prime rahman. there are a few other alright HWs at that time but im not going to take time to check out who i missed.

    my point being that he lost to lesser opposition earlier in his career. and some of these fights were when he was a vetran like against sanders and brewster. he had quite a few years experience under his belt at the time of those losses. then the loss he should have had that people forget about is davaryll williamson who knocked him down with a jab and then the fight was stopped due to a headbutt i think. anyways, williamson should have gotten the decision but they gave it to wlad.

    i admit that he did get better since that time due to manny working with him, but since then, he hasnt actually fought one fighter i would consider "good." the best fighter he faced was haye and he isnt a HW and ran most of the fight. i actually probably rank him higher on this list because of his accomplishments rather than where i think he actually deserves to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    2 votes so far put him in the top 10 ever? haha. is that a joke.

    im somebody who never used to give wlad credit but i give him a lot more credit now than i used to. he is nowhere near top 10 ever though. my main argument is that he started dominating once the competition died out. no more lewis, tua, ruiz (yes, i just said ruiz), holyfield (even an older holyfield), or even a prime rahman. there are a few other alright HWs at that time but im not going to take time to check out who i missed.

    my point being that he lost to lesser opposition earlier in his career. and some of these fights were when he was a vetran like against sanders and brewster. he had quite a few years experience under his belt at the time of those losses. then the loss he should have had that people forget about is davaryll williamson who knocked him down with a jab and then the fight was stopped due to a headbutt i think. anyways, williamson should have gotten the decision but they gave it to wlad.

    i admit that he did get better since that time due to manny working with him, but since then, he hasnt actually fought one fighter i would consider "good." the best fighter he faced was haye and he isnt a HW and ran most of the fight. i actually probably rank him higher on this list because of his accomplishments rather than where i think he actually deserves to be.
    Very well said and pretty much how I feel. Although I think I give Wlad a lil more credit than you do, but not by much.

    He's a different fighter than he was in the Sanders and Brewster fights. Much more confident and effective.

    The Davarryl Williamson fight was a shit show and sham with stopping the fight before Wlad most likely was KO'd.

    Again he's progressed a lot since then, but these things did happen.

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    Default Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

    Top 10 All Time (not in order):

    Marciano
    Louis
    Ali
    Holmes
    Dempsey
    Johnson
    Foreman
    Lewis
    Frazier
    Holyfield

    11-20

    Schmeling
    Baer
    Tunney
    Liston
    Walcott
    Norton
    Tyson
    Charles
    Bowe
    Jeffries

    21-30
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    K2
    no higher than 22 and 23
    Last edited by brocktonblockbust; 10-19-2013 at 11:50 AM.

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    Default Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

    16-25. Tyson stops him in 2 and Ali bamboozles him in 7.

    Vitali Klitschko is the better fighter of the two.

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    Default Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

    I disagree with a lot of what is usually said about the Klitschkos.

    1. I firmly believe, peak for peak, Wlad was the superior brother. He never had Vitali's chin but I think his boxing skills surpassed those of his brother.

    2. I think Wlad and Vitali often suffer from the perception that cleaning out the division was a two man job as opposed to one individual, and to a certain extent that is true.

    3. I don't buy the fact that this HW division is as weak as people think.

    4. With the skills and size that Wlad has, he's a brutal night for ANY HW fighter in the history of the sport.

    I rank him top 10 for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    16-25. Tyson stops him in 2 and Ali bamboozles him in 7.

    Vitali Klitschko is the better fighter of the two.
    Tyson is quite short and it may take him a few rounds to catch Wlad, but once he did...

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    Default Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

    If the word is to mean something, Wlad, like all but arguably the top five or so (purely) Heavyweights is not a great.

    As for his placing in the grand scheme of things, I would say he is top 30, slightly behind big brother, who was more consistent.
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    Default Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    If the word is to mean something, Wlad, like all but arguably the top five or so (purely) Heavyweights is not a great.

    As for his placing in the grand scheme of things, I would say he is top 30, slightly behind big brother, who was more consistent.
    Why? I mean given the length of reign as champion, the amount of title fights, the successful defenses in a row, the sheer dominance he has shown...why only "top 30"? And why behind Vitali?

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    Default Re: Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the all-time great heavyweights?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Top 10 All Time (not in order):

    Marciano
    Louis
    Holmes
    Dempsey
    Johnson
    Foreman
    Lewis
    Frazier
    Jeffries
    Holyfield

    11-20

    Schmeling
    Baer
    Tunney
    Liston
    Walcott
    Norton
    Tyson
    Charles
    Bowe
    Shavers

    21-30
    K1
    K2
    no higher than 21 and 22
    Not sure if I missed it but where is Ali!?

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