I think you are just focusing on stereotypes and expressing your personal political bias by attacking the occupy people, Lyle. It was a range of people protesting and protest they should. You admitted that America is screwed yourself in the Obama thread. You know that the country has been sold out and gutted and yet here you are saying that there simply was no argument. There was an obvious and elementary argument and that was that the creation of vast inequalities of wealth far greater than what generations before have experienced is only leading to massive societal harm.

Now I agree that people shouldn't be taking out massive debt just to have a 4 year university party and that people do need to take responsibility for their own mistakes, but at the same time, I do not think these students are in any way responsible for the fucked up societies that they have inherited. People are getting away with bank robberies, war crimes, mass surveillance. Get upset with the system, and only partially blame a bunch of naive students. They didn't ask to be born or told 'go to university or else you won't get a job' etc. The problem is that they are born into a world that has very little for them. Rich Daddy's can provide a job for their son, a nobleman has his connections, but most don't really have any room for social mobility.

One shouldn't take risks and potentially create human beings as society has failed them and parents without much can do no more than instill a few manners. In Victorian society you would become a rent boy for the aristocracy. Now you become a bar tender to the bankers. Society has receded and soon little kids will be back up the chimneys with soot covered faces. Then the phoney media will condemn blackface, but ignore the more important issue of why people are sending their children up chimney's.