Remember Occupy Wall Street

[El Kabong]

You don't do any work. You spend all day every day on the internet fannying about and watching videos.

People all worked in the fifties and sixties right? Back then there was a far more equitable distribution of income than there is now. We need to get back to that or the economy will never properly recover.

Awww poor Kirkland, no need to worry about me little man, I'm ok


Yes, people USED to provide goods and services and not expect something for nothing. If these kids today have a problem with "the system" then they should not participate in it and yeah that WOULD be difficult but I'd respect that rather than a bunch of idiots saying "Pay for my school, pay my loans, pay for my birth control, pay for my rent, pay me to go to school"....OWS was just a bunch of spoiled brats throwing a hissy fit. The movement faded....and why dear Kirkland? Why is the movement not around anymore? Have things been fixed? Or were they just there to rally people AGAINST big business and more importantly Mitt Romney?

The disparity between the wealthy and the poor is WORSE under your buddy Obama than it ever was under W and yet we have no more Occupy.....why Kirkland? Is the job of those useful idiots done?

[Kirkland Laing]

You don't do any work. You spend all day every day on the internet fannying about and watching videos.

People all worked in the fifties and sixties right? Back then there was a far more equitable distribution of income than there is now. We need to get back to that or the economy will never properly recover.

Awww poor Kirkland, no need to worry about me little man, I'm ok


Yes, people USED to provide goods and services and not expect something for nothing. If these kids today have a problem with "the system" then they should not participate in it and yeah that WOULD be difficult but I'd respect that rather than a bunch of idiots saying "Pay for my school, pay my loans, pay for my birth control, pay for my rent, pay me to go to school"....OWS was just a bunch of spoiled brats throwing a hissy fit. The movement faded....and why dear Kirkland? Why is the movement not around anymore? Have things been fixed? Or were they just there to rally people AGAINST big business and more importantly Mitt Romney?

The disparity between the wealthy and the poor is WORSE under your buddy Obama than it ever was under W and yet we have no more Occupy.....why Kirkland? Is the job of those useful idiots done?

Occupy Wall Street buys $15 million of Americans' medical debt

By Elizabeth Dilts
Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:00pm EST


Occupy Wall Street buys $15 million of Americans' medical debt | Reuters


They'd still be demonstrating if the camps hadn't been forcibly removed.. And Occupy and/or its descendents will eventually become a popular mass movement as whoever is in the White House in the next decade or so will continue the exact same policies that keep increasing inequality.

[El Kabong]

So basically OWS was a bunch of people saying "We don't want to pay for what we use anymore"? Does that about sum it up then?

Income disparity and we don't want to pay for anything again because we've been beaten by "the system" and we're sore losers....that it Comrade?

[Kirkland Laing]

So basically OWS was a bunch of people saying "We don't want to pay for what we use anymore"? Does that about sum it up then?

Income disparity and we don't want to pay for anything again because we've been beaten by "the system" and we're sore losers....that it Comrade?

No. It's a bunch of people wanting a fairer distribution of income. They're not asking for something for nothing, they're asking for a redistribution of income downwards to make up for the massive upward redistribution of income that's happened over the past thirty years.

But hey, it's pointless pointing this out to you. The fact will fall out of theback of your brain in seconds and you'll be back ranting about workshy losers wanting something for nothing.

[El Kabong]

No. It's a bunch of people wanting a fairer distribution of income. They're not asking for something for nothing, they're asking for a redistribution of income downwards to make up for the massive upward redistribution of income that's happened over the past thirty years.

But hey, it's pointless pointing this out to you. The fact will fall out of theback of your brain in seconds and you'll be back ranting about workshy losers wanting something for nothing.

Oh no, you're totally right, those people seemed to be working very hard

[Kirkland Laing]

A small handful of people living in tents in a park isn't representative of the movement at large. And it turns out the movement at large is already representative of a large number of Americans :

Poll: Occupy Wall Street is Twice as Popular as The Tea Party



Last week, I noted a Rasmussen Reports survey that gave Occupy Wall Street slightly higher favorable ratings than the Tea Party. Time magazine's new national poll is out, and there's no "slightly" here. The Occupy movement has a 54 percent favorable rating; the Tea Party's rating is 27 percent.




Poll: Occupy Wall Street is Twice as Popular as The Tea Party




And eventually, as things continue to get worse for the 99% and the things I've been telling you about for years, inequality and so on, continue to get worse, Occupy and/or its descendents will become a popular mass movement supported by over half the country.

[El Kabong]

Yeah and guess what....the Tea Party is still around. Where's Occupy? Where are they Kirkland? Did they solve all the problems? Did they achieve their goals? Or did they support my stereotype of them and give up?

The Tea Party is looking all the more popular what with Obamacare being so wonderful

[Andre]

You don't do any work. You spend all day every day on the internet fannying about and watching videos.

People all worked in the fifties and sixties right? Back then there was a far more equitable distribution of income than there is now. We need to get back to that or the economy will never properly recover.

Awww poor Kirkland, no need to worry about me little man, I'm ok


Yes, people USED to provide goods and services and not expect something for nothing. If these kids today have a problem with "the system" then they should not participate in it and yeah that WOULD be difficult but I'd respect that rather than a bunch of idiots saying "Pay for my school, pay my loans, pay for my birth control, pay for my rent, pay me to go to school"....OWS was just a bunch of spoiled brats throwing a hissy fit. The movement faded....and why dear Kirkland? Why is the movement not around anymore? Have things been fixed? Or were they just there to rally people AGAINST big business and more importantly Mitt Romney?

The disparity between the wealthy and the poor is WORSE under your buddy Obama than it ever was under W and yet we have no more Occupy.....why Kirkland? Is the job of those useful idiots done?

Occupy Wall Street buys $15 million of Americans' medical debt

By Elizabeth Dilts
Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:00pm EST


Occupy Wall Street buys $15 million of Americans' medical debt | Reuters


They'd still be demonstrating if the camps hadn't been forcibly removed.. And Occupy and/or its descendents will eventually become a popular mass movement as whoever is in the White House in the next decade or so will continue the exact same policies that keep increasing inequality.

That is really such a great thing to do. Brilliant; the debt being bought for a fiftieth of its so called value. These people who couldnt afford their own medical insurance needed this break. Inequality over basic needs in the US is wrong; it should be a human right.

Lyle dont you think that is very different than what you are standing up for; (The rich protecting the ground they have worked for.)

[Andre]

Out here if you havent medical insurance it just means you cant choose which surgeon does your work and theres less gap payment to pick up. Here if we go in under the government scheme we could have the apprentices do all the work, while he is learning the craft usually under the watch of one of the top surgeons but you get the risk of there first few loan jobs too.Then theres the risk of public hospitals post op infection rates but its much cheaper than private hospitals.
There are some grey areas where families down on luck and the health of one of their children are ran bankrupt,whats wrong with addressing that?

[El Kabong]

That is really such a great thing to do. Brilliant; the debt being bought for a fiftieth of its so called value. These people who couldnt afford their own medical insurance needed this break. Inequality over basic needs in the US is wrong; it should be a human right.

Lyle dont you think that is very different than what you are standing up for; (The rich protecting the ground they have worked for.)

And now we have Obamacare which is MORE expensive, harder to get, and REQUIRED. But that being the case, Obamacare will restrict procedures and care not make them more affordable.

I am not certain if you've heard what a clusterfuck healthcare.gov is but I can assure you things are going to get WORSE not better.

Inequality over basic needs? So these protesters with their brand name apparel and Guy Fawkes masks and tents are hurting are they? Here's a quote from a Founding Father that still rings true to the place of Government

"Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government" - President James Madison

[Andre]

That is really such a great thing to do. Brilliant; the debt being bought for a fiftieth of its so called value. These people who couldnt afford their own medical insurance needed this break. Inequality over basic needs in the US is wrong; it should be a human right.

Lyle dont you think that is very different than what you are standing up for; (The rich protecting the ground they have worked for.)

And now we have Obamacare which is MORE expensive, harder to get, and REQUIRED. But that being the case, Obamacare will restrict procedures and care not make them more affordable.

I am not certain if you've heard what a clusterfuck healthcare.gov is but I can assure you things are going to get WORSE not better.

Inequality over basic needs? So these protesters with their brand name apparel and Guy Fawkes masks and tents are hurting are they? Here's a quote from a Founding Father that still rings true to the place of Government

Strange thing to say when last week in this exact thread you said they dressed like bums.

I'm not sure it matters how they are dressed or what income they have. My bet is a fair few of them are better off than you and work longer hours,there has to be, just on %.
I dont see why that should bother you either though.


How would you politically fix the problem without being charitable then?

[El Kabong]

How would you politically fix the problem without being charitable then?

I said it's not the GOVERNMENT's job to be charitable. I support charities on my own and those organizations are specifically set up to help people. The US government had a "War on Poverty" which has done more harm than good, it has wasted tax payer money, it has destroyed families, it has weakened the resolve of people...charities have people who give of themselves freely, not under threat of the IRS or at the point of a gun...charities give people hope while at the same time strengthening resolve "If you need help, we're here...hands on. We'll help you find a job, we'll help you fix your home, we'll help you pay for surgery" when you have REAL PEOPLE help you, then you will not be so eager to waste the gifts they have given you. When the faceless government sends a check, you feel no guilt at misappropriating those funds towards unnecessary items.

From a Behavioral Psychology standpoint all welfare ("government charity") does is reward people for NOT working and bad decision making.



Also you can wear name brand clothing and still look like a bum.