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Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
Groves has no chance. His heart (an unproven heart at that) may be in it, but his skill isn't there.
The fact that you don't like a fighter doesn't mean he sucks. It doesn't work that way. I don't particular care for Groves myself. But to say he's unskilled is just foolish.
Groves is a good fighter, don't get me wrong. But he is not on the level of Froch.

Froch is on the level of Hopkins, Ward, Dirrell, GGG.

Groves is on the level of Barker, Stevenson, Sturm, Abraham. Good fighters, but just a shade below really great fighters. Groves may not even be at this level, but I will give him that.