Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
With respect Zimmerman seems like the polar opposite of yourself. It seems that in his case the gun gave him Dutch courage and he ended up putting himself into a situation that he could not handle. If he could not be confident of tackling Martin he should have walked away. Instead he set himself up as judge and jury and ended up being the executioner.
Again more assumptions. "Putting himself in a situation he could not handle" how can you tell before there's any confrontation? Also if he felt that way during the verbal confrontation Zimmerman would have been the one aiming to calm things down regardless of his carrying a gun.

It was a horrible situation, both parties did stupid things, and someone wound up dead.


But it was NOT murder, it was NOT manslaughter, because Zimmerman was defending himself after being physically attacked. Had Trayvon NOT punched George then yes, Murder, life sentence or death penalty, easy case....but that didn't happen.

You are really trying to twist this into George Zimmerman should be sent to jail. Which is not justice and it sets a horrible precedent for anyone attempting to defend themselves. Sorry Beanz but I side with Self Defense and that is why I really don't get what your argument is. Had Zimmerman punched Trayvon once in retaliation and killed him what then? Would you want his hands cut off?
That is BS and you know it. In you over eagerness to justify and defend anybody using a gun you are making huge assumptions in order to justify a Gun owner shooting somebody dead. If you have to use a gun to defend yourself against somebody that was not committing a crime you can hardly then claim self defence as an argument. Nobody witnessed the start of the altercation so why assume that a guy who was intent on following somebody was innocent of any act of aggression? Where is the self defence argument for Martin ? Is he not allowed to stand his ground or is that right only extended to the armed? You are asking everybody to suspend their disbelief and believe that Zimmerman the vigilante would suddenly become the reasonable one and despite ignoring suggestions not to take the law into his own hands would suddenly become reasonable and rational and be the one "aiming to calm things down". If he was not interested in a confrontation he should not have confronted somebody. If all it takes is a punch in the US to justify someone upping the stakes and pulling out a gun then what the hell happened to the all the men? If someone punches somebody once and that punch kills the other person then that is obviously a case of unintentional manslaughter, a crime which in neither the UK or US carries a barbaric punishment of having your hands cut off.