Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
Please point to the guys on the list I have been harsh on with "skills" in deep advance of a modern boxer?

It's difficult because many of them weren't actually renowned for them were they!! But I'll take the liberty of selecting Walcott. He has been termed, the "defensive" one of the bunch.

Let me tell you, he was good but Chris Byrd, he wasn't, and Byrd would have been BIG compared to him as well!

Now I'm not arguing with size altogether, that is 1/3 of my angle. I am saying that the total package that all those fighters represented combining size, athleticism and skill was less that what is required by the modern division.

How could it be otherwise?

What about say, Sultan Ibragimov? Could you really see Sultan being seriously challenged by Sonny Liston? I seen that guy weave into a fucking giant wall of muscle and chop him down like he was nothing! Yet slo-mo Liston is somehow magically gonna catch him with one of his mail order shots!

Chris Arreola! HA! Imagine a guy the size of George Foreman but 20lbs heftier and with good stamina, faster, punching in combination and with real skills and an even better chin, THAT'S Arreola! And how do you suppose Mr. Muhammad would "rope a dope" this man??

I tell you how, he'd jump through the ropes and fuckin run for the friggin hills mate and forget all about ever taking up boxing as a profession.

And please I hate to bring it up, but when Arreola was beaten by Adamek, Adamek WAS a HW. He was in fact the same size as the HEAVY 70's version of Ali (the guy I give credit to a bit). Adamek was also a 7 time world champion boxer! before moving up to HW and he did not do it in Ali style by flipping around the place avoiding a fight, he did it by effective counter-punching.
You utter twat cunt!

Arreola is better than Foreman?

Foreman would batter Adamek and Stiverne!

Adamek did indeed move up from light heavy yes.

So could all those other better skilled heavies.

Your argument is utterly fucking pointless.

If we could transport all those fighters to here and now in their primes and give them a year with our training and "suppliments" that allow fighters to move up in weight and still look like body builders then todays division would look like what it is. A pile of shit.

Right now the Foreman that wiped out Norton and Frazier would scare the living shit out of Wlad!

If the young Foreman was transported now and put in with Arreola, he'd love to face him as he's so fucking easy to hit. If Adamek, an ex light heavy can hurt Arreola, Foreman will wipe him out!

Joey Abell made Arreola's legs go before he got stopped himself.

Rather than worry aout me becoming a boxer, maybe you should try watching some