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Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
You were born and bred in this country so show appreciation. The issues you talk about happen everywhere even where you live now.
No, Master. I have to disagree. I was raised to believe that the world of 1984 was a fiction and not a reality. That fact alone astonishes me. It has become reality and I won't sugarcoat it.

The UK (and America) are demented and the logic of the world says as much. I like cricket, but that doesn't mean that I am going to lie about immigration, property, and taxes. The Brits are being fleeced and should be angry. There is nothing deluded in a pure wave of rage amongst the youth.
Stop already. Stop telling people what they should be. I work here in the UK with young people and the pure wave of rage you talk about is yours and yours alone. Of course Governments are corrupt and have been long before either of us were born but that does not mean you can fill an entire thread about the recent elections with your own personal ranting on things, which in reality, have very little bearing on your own life. Stop dismissing other people's conclusions and opinions simply because of your 'research' or on the strength of 'data' you have collected whilst all the time completely ignoring the facts that Ryanman and myself have presented to you.

I am sorry if I have attacked you personally but your whole attitude is preposterous and is impossible to meet with rationality. You are mixing up a carefully considered opinion that is very different from your own, one that reacts in understandable shock at people's unwitting acceptance of a political party father to the right and more conservative than the corrupt elite funded Tory party in power, with an unthinking naivety and acceptance of the presented facts by traditional media. I am not a dullard or a sheep and have not only been aware of, and created work in response to, secret societies like the Bilderbergs and Rothschilds, but have also highlighted worrying trends like covert Government and company surveillance literally, years ago.

I will not be party to remaining silent while UKIP seek to increase taxes on the poor and defend those further to the right than the current Government and corrupt bankers that have already lined their own pockets at our expense. I will not shut up when they seek to dismantle the NHS. I will not take the easy road of condemning and over simplifying the facts by blaming all Britain's troubles on Immigration and single mothers whilst the fat cats lick the cream off their paws and sit at home on a £64,000 salary instead of defending Britain and it's workers in the Parliament they have been elected to.

Without wanting to needlessly insult you, You sound like a little boy who has just discovered that the Punch and Judy puppets are just that, puppets and that it is a man who has been saying

"thats the way to do it"

and bashing a sausage stealing crocodile with a truncheon all along. You are eager to tell all the other boys but they already know, and have done for some time.


You say you do not believe in patriotism or any such silly jingoistic nonsense and then go on to draw clear distinctions between not only nationalities, but classes of people and even sexes, as though everyone should behave like you, and all be university educated, and get married but have no kids, and if they are in anyway different then they must be irresponsible or lazy or stealing the jobs of others.

Go and start your own thread about how England has disappointed you by not remaining frozen in time like a mouldy sausage roll from Gregs, suspended in formaldehyde like some limp reminder of a golden age that never was and an England that never existed.