Floyd's competition vs Manny's competition

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Duran beat Leonard. You can't find anyone on Floyd's record/resume close to prime Leonard. Not even close. Duran also completely cleaned out lightweight. Completely cleaned it out and had only suffered one avenged loss prior to beating Leonard. Again, just off of that I rank him higher than Floyd.

My two main points for Armstrong are his beating ATG/HOFers and holding 3 of 8 available titles simultaneously. The defenses in one year was thrown in to show how busy he was. To ur point on quality of opposition: if Floyd averaged two fights a month he would get the benefit of the doubt, as long as he still fought the top guys along the way.

Again, you gave me one name (Leonard) and then you reverted right back to quantity over quality. How good was this division that Duran cleaned out? Can someone tell me?

On the ATG/HOF argument... it's disingenuous and inaccurate to present a HOF induction as a standard of quality that automatically puts a boxer above non-HOFers. Like anything, HOFs by nature are political and look more favorably on old timers and pioneers.

Example of some HOFers:

Sixto Escobar: 39-23
Battling Battalino: 57-26
Cinderella Man James Braddock: 46-24, famous upset of Baer
Young Corbett: 68-22
George Dixon: 50-26
Mysterious Billy Smith: 30-24
Pipino Cuevas: 35-15
Joey Maxim: 82-29 (of course, most famous for being dominated by SRR for 13 rounds before SRR collapsed from heat exhaustion)
Lew Jenkins: 70-39

Ect ect ect

Now all these guys were champs at some point and all were very capable fighters. But am I really to believe Mysterious Billy Smith was a more impressive win than, let's say, Ricky Hatton, simply because Smith is in the HOF and Hatton isn't? Or that James Braddock, a dirt poor club fighter who managed to pull off a huge upset and win the world title (only to lose it brutally in his next fight) is a higher quality opponent than, let's say, a David Haye?