Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
For me it's who started the claim: Fighters who fought Shavers, how do we dispute them? Why would we dispute them?

Tyson for example: doesn't have foes who speak on him as the hardest puncher, but rather state: He is a hard puncher for a guy his size.

Ruddock got his jaw broke against Tyson in fight II because fight one was called premature- 12 +7 rounds Tyson couldn't do what Lennox did to Ruddock in a few rounds.

Holyfield: Never dropped by Tyson

Douglas: rose from the canvas like many of shavers opponents you accurately named.

Bruce Seldon: got hit on his flat top fro, I won't even go there on how fixed it looked.

Buster Mathis Jr. a fat chaloopa was considered a KO, but he was on his feet when it was stopped.

McNeely? Not sure how to respond whose next 5 losses were all TKO/KO's.

To this day, I will not watch the Lennox, fight, the way Tyson took a beating. But I will not dillute the power of Tyson just because he couldnt do what McCall & Rahman did: stop Lennox. Tyson's mental block or inability to bully Lennox is why he failed IMO. Beat Tyson mentally; stand up to him and he withers after 5-6 rounds.

Same with McBride & Danny Williams, they withstood Tyson's power & bully mindset, but I dont think it lessens Tyson power anymore than some bums who withstood Shavers power.

Alot of steam left his punches when he fought Ruddock II past 6 rounds.- Did Shavers loses steam as well?

IMO Shavers place in history as a hard puncher goes beyond historians and fans, because it begins with the guys who fought him. Many tomato cans retired because of him and the top who beat him don't speak of his boxing skills or his chin: they speak of his power as brutal. I accept their claim.
I think you're kind of reaching when you bring up the Tyson who fought McBride and Danny Williams...