I'm not sure you even pretend to be genuine half the time you aren't posting gibberish, so I wasn't to interested in your opinion. I don't give a rats what they look like or how they dress and appear, I find it very hard to listen in detail to people who hold core beliefs which I consider nonsensical. I have given both of them a try, I think they are poorly informed, and most any evidence they put forward is purely anecdotal.