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The independent had an article today about British soldiers in Iraq standing trial for torture, it can't be that bad, I usually find decent articles on there. I am by no means well informed, I'm sure you read a lot more than I do and that's great. Do you believe the 911 wasn't a terrorist attack though? As I don't, it's very hard to take people convinced otherwise very seriously. It just doesn't add up, even your hero Chomsky doesn't go that far :P
I am open minded and have argued both ways on 911. All I know is that the official narrative is flawed and there are a lot of things that do not add up. Building 7 falling on its own and the two towers falling like a controlled demolition obviously raises question marks. There is too much to go into here though. It's a huge topic.

The Indy isn't terrible, I read through every morning. It does have information, but when it comes to economic analysis and honesty about Britains role in destabilising the world, I find it lacking. No mainstream paper will fully go there really. I do love Fisk though who will speak the truth about Israel.
Building 7 was hit by heavy debris from the north tower and several fires started inside. It was searched once over but then Larry Silverstein and the Fire chief ordered a halt to it as there was nobody inside and so many firemen had already died. There were ZERO casualties as a result of it's collapse. Major skyscrapers are designed to implode in the event of a major structural fault, so that they don't topple sideways. People who simply want to believe it was an inside job without objectively looking at the facts really creep me out. Have you read the 911 commission report? It's entirely uncontroversial.
I have read excerpts, but I haven't sat down and read it in full. I have heard it was a whitewash. What you say does not tally with what I know about building 7 at all. There are a number of sites out there with a lot of information and from people who know far more than me. Give it a look as what you say above suggests you do not even consider alternative sources of information. The people who creep me out are statists that trust the system. Not that I am saying you are one, but if you were to believe the government then there would be WMD in Iraq, that the Taliban carried out 9-11, that ISIS appeared out the blue. Of course that is all gibberish and the story of 9-11 doesn't really hold together very well when you look into it either and that of course started the descent into madness.