Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
JMM is not a good welterweight. Fact which is why Brooks crew wanted to fight him. Easy fight and big name.
So you say it's who you beat that determines if you are good but Bradley beat a much much better fighter than anyone Thurman has beaten but it doesn't count because Marquez isn't a good welterweight.

But again Marquez beat a much much better fighter than anyone Thurman has fought by beating Pacquiao.

Are you going to say that doesn't count either? How many better fighters do we need to list before who they actually beat matters? How much do you allow yourself to pick and choose what counts FFS?
Look at what really happened against Manny. JMM was getting battered and landed the shot of a life time. What else has JMM done at the weight?

Thurman beats Bradley and JMM. Both were great fighters at the lower weights but are not legitimate welterweights.

Give it a rest.