Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
Come on Hopkins stayed in mw division for ever and it was weak as shit and he was beating up a few blown up welter weights with name value. Kessler is better then anyone Hopkins has beat in mw division and in some cases lhw to. Joe is on par with Hopkins they both reign over weak division and moved up and won belts in the division up. Tell how many fighters beat Hopkins after Calzaghe did Dawson and fucking monster from Russia he beat everyone else. Tell me what Tyson did after his loses he went on to become 280 there not the same thing and you know it. Also if were going off fighters of there time there not even in the same time frame Calzaghe and Hopkins. Now back to GGG who you seem to love who the fuck has he beat nobody and why not move up himself don't see you having a fit over that.
Hopkins stayed in the middleweight division for a long time.....but he unified the belts while he was there. Calzaghe just had the WBO belt until he fought Jeff Lacy which was a fight very late in Joe's career. If Joe wasn't making super fights then what was he doing at 168? Can ANYONE tell me that? Sure Svenn Ottke is a punk and wouldn't leave Germany and wouldn't fight anyone worth a damn, but there were other belts to be had no

Kessler was a good fighter I don't begrudge that, but for fucks sake Mikkel and Jeff Lacy are the only PRIME fighters that were any good you can say Joe fought and beat, ok MAYBE add Robin Reid. Hopkins cleaned out the middleweight division....can't say that about Calzaghe seeing how he had 1 title for the majority of his career and I'm sorry in the day and age which Joe Calzaghe fought that's NOT impressive, 46-0-0 is nice, but 1 title, it's damn near pathetic considering how talented I admit Calzaghe is....which he is....he's just not as talented as a Prime RJJ or Prime Hopkins

The fights should have been made earlier, if you think that's 100% on RJJ or Hopkins fine, I'm just not giving the same value to those fights because of when they happened. If Calzaghe fought RJJ in say 1998 and won, then we wouldn't be having this little debate but he didn't....sorry.




"Now back to GGG who you seem to love"......settle down sweetheart, I haven't even said "I'm a Golovkin fan" he's a good fighter, he's in the middle of his career and in his prime and that's about all I have to say about him. Just because I don't think Joe Calzaghe hung the moon doesn't mean I'm a Golovkin fanboy. I said Joe wouldn't fight him seeing how he's in his prime....when Golovkin is 37 a Prime Calzaghe would fight him...that's all I'm saying and I'm saying Floyd and Ward would do the exact same thing so don't get your panties in a bunch....we disagree on the internet on the subject of a hypothetical boxing matchup, it's not the end of the world....at least not for me.