Prime Calzaghe vs Golovkin

[El Kabong]

Calzaghe had a good engine and he could still punch a bit for a guy with very bad hands, he was on the sideline with injuries being his hands.
Joe took a lot of stick but in reality he was told not to box by his specialist but he did.
He was injured going in the Lacy fight and wanted to pull but he went ahead and gave a magnificent performance punch perfect.
A boxer fighting with bad hand which are the tools of his trade, imagine the pain that's why I like Joe he managed to win fighting injured continually.
Joe Calzaghe is one of the best fighters this Country has ever had that's a fact.

Yeah and I don't doubt a single word of that.....he just wasn't better than RJJ or Hopkins in their pomp.

[Master]

Calzaghe had a good engine and he could still punch a bit for a guy with very bad hands, he was on the sideline with injuries being his hands.
Joe took a lot of stick but in reality he was told not to box by his specialist but he did.
He was injured going in the Lacy fight and wanted to pull but he went ahead and gave a magnificent performance punch perfect.
A boxer fighting with bad hand which are the tools of his trade, imagine the pain that's why I like Joe he managed to win fighting injured continually.
Joe Calzaghe is one of the best fighters this Country has ever had that's a fact.

Yeah and I don't doubt a single word of that.....he just wasn't better than RJJ or Hopkins in their pomp.

Jones I will give you but not Hopkins.

[Mr140]

Calzaghe had a good engine and he could still punch a bit for a guy with very bad hands, he was on the sideline with injuries being his hands.
Joe took a lot of stick but in reality he was told not to box by his specialist but he did.
He was injured going in the Lacy fight and wanted to pull but he went ahead and gave a magnificent performance punch perfect.
A boxer fighting with bad hand which are the tools of his trade, imagine the pain that's why I like Joe he managed to win fighting injured continually.
Joe Calzaghe is one of the best fighters this Country has ever had that's a fact.

Yeah and I don't doubt a single word of that.....he just wasn't better than RJJ or Hopkins in their pomp.

Jones I will give you but not Hopkins.

I can see saying Jones but Hopkins has done nothing to set him self apart from Calzaghe. Kessler is a better win then anything Hopkins has really and Calzaghe win over older Hopkins is better then anything Hop has done. I mean there wins are the same in there weaker division they both had shit ton of defenses and both were champs in a few division. Tito not a great win because he was never any thing at mw had a good win thats it and Oscar was never even a mw. Lacy for all his hype was beating guys at his weight, Kessler better then anyone hop faced at mw not mention Calzaghe has not lost at his weight class either. Also with prime Hopkins when exactly is it when he beat Tito so at the peak of his powers he beat a guy with good win at that division that was not close to his best.

[p4pking]

Calzaghes win over Hopkins is better than anything Hopkins has done, hard to argue with that really
I think Hopkins beating Pascal was really impressive though, even Tarver all things considered.

[Dia bando]

Calzaghe had a good engine and he could still punch a bit for a guy with very bad hands, he was on the sideline with injuries being his hands.
Joe took a lot of stick but in reality he was told not to box by his specialist but he did.
He was injured going in the Lacy fight and wanted to pull but he went ahead and gave a magnificent performance punch perfect.
A boxer fighting with bad hand which are the tools of his trade, imagine the pain that's why I like Joe he managed to win fighting injured continually.
Joe Calzaghe is one of the best fighters this Country has ever had that's a fact.

Yeah and I don't doubt a single word of that.....he just wasn't better than RJJ or Hopkins in their pomp.

You could be right about RJJ but I still fancy Joe to beat him never seen Jones hit so much by any fighter, and I feel Joe carried Jones and he could have Ko him.

[Mr140]

Well if you look at there best wins with Hopkins you got Taver,Pascal,Tito, and Johnson then you have Calzaghe with Hopkins, Kessler, Reid and Lacy looks to pretty even but Hopkins even at his age better win then those guys. They both have 10 year dominate reigns in there division both have been lineal champs in a few divisions there pretty much the same. The more i look at it the more i side with Calzaghe never lost and he has better wins in his division Kessler was better then anyone hop faced in mw and beating Hopkins at lhw is better then any win Hopkins has at lhw.

[p4pking]

Well if you look at there best wins with Hopkins you got Taver,Pascal,Tito, and Johnson then you have Calzaghe with Hopkins, Kessler, Reid and Lacy looks to pretty even but Hopkins even at his age better win then those guys. They both have 10 year dominate reigns in there division both have been lineal champs in a few divisions there pretty much the same. The more i look at it the more i side with Calzaghe never lost and he has better wins in his division Kessler was better then anyone hop faced in mw and beating Hopkins at lhw is better then any win Hopkins has at lhw.

Hopkins and Calzaghe is an extremely difficult fight to score imo, for two guys that good it was a bad fight and basically every single effective punch was landed by Hopkins. I don't know who would have won in their primes, but I don't think you can argue that Hopkins faced the better form throughout his career. Your argument basically boils down to your last point, which is silly to begin with, more so considering there wasn't a clear winner between them.

[Mr140]

Well if you look at there best wins with Hopkins you got Taver,Pascal,Tito, and Johnson then you have Calzaghe with Hopkins, Kessler, Reid and Lacy looks to pretty even but Hopkins even at his age better win then those guys. They both have 10 year dominate reigns in there division both have been lineal champs in a few divisions there pretty much the same. The more i look at it the more i side with Calzaghe never lost and he has better wins in his division Kessler was better then anyone hop faced in mw and beating Hopkins at lhw is better then any win Hopkins has at lhw.

Hopkins and Calzaghe is an extremely difficult fight to score imo, for two guys that good it was a bad fight and basically every single effective punch was landed by Hopkins. I don't know who would have won in their primes, but I don't think you can argue that Hopkins faced the better form throughout his career. Your argument basically boils down to your last point, which is silly to begin with, more so considering there wasn't a clear winner between them.

From all the polls i have seen most had Calzaghe winning it was a close fight and i can not see how Hopkins won a round after first few because he through nothing. Also Kessler is better smw then any guy i can think of that Hopkins beat at mw. Outside of that they dominated weak division for a decade i just gave Calzaghe the edge because he never lost and i think he did enough against hopkins to win and it is a official win for him. There comp outside a few are the same there careers are very similar i really do not care either way but people act like Hops in another league do not see it.