Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
Ali beat at least 3 great champions in Liston, Frazier and Foreman so had better competition to contend with in his era probably the best era ever. Ali prime was taken away from him as well. Ali was not knocked out and lose his fight as a contender. Ali was not vulnerable early in fights and could not be outboxed by a light heavyweight.


Nose was automatically correct for Bowe.
Liston was great? He beat Patterson for the belt, beat Patterson in the rematch and then lost the belt never to win it again or compete at the highest level again.

Joe Frazier beat Ali in their first match....he was at that point a 1 armed fighter with only a jab and left hook to his arsenal.

George Foreman beat the dog shit out of Frazier and then was immediately beaten by Ali....and what nobody complains about those ropes?

Ali lost the title a few times...Joe Louis lost it once, after holding it from 1937 to 1950 and again from 1942-1944 Joe Louis had 0 title fights so with his 'Bum of The Month Club' he could have had maybe 30 or 40 consecutive successful title defenses.

Riddick Bowe doesn't even deserve to be mentioned with Joe Louis. Riddick Bowe fought 1 great heavyweight ever, held a gigantic size and health advantage over him at the time and still lost one of the 3 fights. Only fight worth a damn he took outside the Golota fights and Golota SHOULD have beaten the shit out of Bowe.

Sure bring up Conn..."could not be outboxed by a light heavyweight"....oh I'm sorry winner by KO Joe Louis.

Joe Louis would be too much for George Foreman, he could box better than George and he had a quicker straighter delivery of his punches. If Ron Lyle could put George on the canvas then you had better believe Joe Louis would have!


Ali is overrated as hell.