Prime George Foreman vs. Prime Joe Louis.

[Master]

If Ali was around Liston may have been champion for a long time.

Joe Frazier beat Ali in their first match because Ali probably took the fight too soon and he won the other 2 fights.

No shame for George Foreman to lose to the greatest, Foreman may have been champion for a long time.

Ali did not lose when he was young, up and coming.

Ali had the perfect style to beat Joe. He would out box him for 12 or 15 rounds and because he was much bigger he could take his punches and probably get the stoppage.

[El Kabong]

If Ali was around Liston may have been champion for a long time.

Joe Frazier beat Ali in their first match because Ali probably took the fight too soon and he won the other 2 fights.

No shame for George Foreman to lose to the greatest, Foreman may have been champion for a long time.

Ali did not lose when he was young, up and coming.

Ali had the perfect style to beat Joe. He would out box him for 12 or 15 rounds and because he was much bigger he could take his punches and probably get the stoppage.

If that's what you think it's what you think....if Ali could get floored by Frazier and rocked by Cooper then if Joe Louis gets Ali in trouble (and you're in trouble with Joe Louis if you're standing in the ring) then I think Joe Louis hammers the piss out of him.


besides this is not Ali-Louis this is Foreman-Louis we're talking here Prime vs Prime.

[Spicoli]

Be a great contrast in composure and self awareness. Louis was a picture of refined punching potency compared to early free swinging Foreman. Definitely not saying Foreman couldn't badly hurt him but see Louis punching in between his many defensive gaps as the storm dissipates down the stretch.

[El Kabong]

Older Foreman has a better shot....what a battle that would have been!

[powerpuncher]

I could see it going either way, but if I had to put money on it I would go with Louis. Louis showed to have a weaker chin, but he did fight bigger fighters during his day and just exposed their flaws. I think that Louis would have been able to punch through the defense of Foreman and keep him off balance. He could have worn him out too.

Foreman obviously had the power to really hurt Louis so that is always a huge factor. He would make Louis much more hesitant to counter for fear of getting hit with another counter.

[Master]

Older Foreman has a better shot....what a battle that would have been!

Young Foreman would be more formidable but older George was wiser and smarter who gave Holyfield a very hard time. George Foreman's chin is very underrated.

[El Kabong]

Older Foreman has a better shot....what a battle that would have been!

Young Foreman would be more formidable but older George was wiser and smarter who gave Holyfield a very hard time. George Foreman's chin is very underrated.

George always had the power it was just how he managed to deliver it changed...Old Foreman had a great jab and a chopping right cross which could fell a rhinoceros but he was immobile. Young George was very wild and wide with his punches mainly hooks and uppercuts. Those punches are slower than the 1-2 so he could have been beaten to the punch against somebody who threw sharply.

If Young George had the brain of Old George then he would have been the best heavyweight ever.....a George Foreman who was patient and made every punch count would have handled Ali quite easily, it wouldn't have taken him long to put 2 and 2 together and seen that Ali was making him gas out and Ali was fighting in spurts...pawing jab, wait for Ali to come out of his shell and THEN land the crushing right cross.....that would have been goodnight sweetheart.

Young George wasn't dumb, he was just over confident in his natural ability. The way he fought Frazier was perfect.

[Master]

Older Foreman has a better shot....what a battle that would have been!

Young Foreman would be more formidable but older George was wiser and smarter who gave Holyfield a very hard time. George Foreman's chin is very underrated.

George always had the power it was just how he managed to deliver it changed...Old Foreman had a great jab and a chopping right cross which could fell a rhinoceros but he was immobile. Young George was very wild and wide with his punches mainly hooks and uppercuts. Those punches are slower than the 1-2 so he could have been beaten to the punch against somebody who threw sharply.

If Young George had the brain of Old George then he would have been the best heavyweight ever.....a George Foreman who was patient and made every punch count would have handled Ali quite easily, it wouldn't have taken him long to put 2 and 2 together and seen that Ali was making him gas out and Ali was fighting in spurts...pawing jab, wait for Ali to come out of his shell and THEN land the crushing right cross.....that would have been goodnight sweetheart.

Young George wasn't dumb, he was just over confident in his natural ability. The way he fought Frazier was perfect.

I am sure Ali was giving as good as he got and was winning the fight against George.