The United States of America

[Gandalf]

And Beanz doesn't make things up? He projects constantly too. He has to justify his viewpoints likely because he knows he has benefited from an immigrant status. I have too but the difference is I do not want the borders open here nor there. It only leads to problems and the immigrant ends up in the middle and that is a shame. Controlled immigration is totally fine, but out of control immigration will destroy a country in less than a century. I don't think anybody wants to see that happen, though with the Beanz types I do have to wonder.

It is cowardly to constantly call people racist as a means of closing down discussion. If I am being racist then I should be banned and I don't think that will happen as I am being factual and a fact is not racist.

Ya know it’s funny. My wife came here legally and never got a dime from the US unless you want to count academic scholarships. Full undergrad than Cornell postgrad all academic scholarships. She got jobs along the way to help with incidentals. She brings over several coworkers whom we have dinner with, two Pakistani coworkers, in the US calling them paki is not derogatory as they have said it at my dinner table and a really nice girl from Ireland who came here not that long ago as she said the opportunities are greater and she said, I have a hard time believing it, it’s cheaper living here and she likes it better. My Albanian coworker same thing. He sits at my table telling me how he was almost killed by the government as his best friend was in some resistance groups. He was actually in fear for his life. He is here, works in my department and has a mason company on the side. So in these cases it benefited the US and the immigrant. I don’t expect the US to close its borders we would just like it to make a bit more sense. All the above mentioned people say getting US citizenship was the best day they have ever had. Ok enough I’m starting to ramble

That just makes you a bigger cunt. Why on earth are you pretending that Miles would agree with you? He has no time for any kind of immigration because he could not make it in the UK. He cannot knuckle down which is why he only works mornings ffs. I wondered for years why after disclosing the fact myself and my families had disabilities he went on this tirade about me being on benefits and being workshy and now finally 7 years later it is quite clear what was behind it. Projection.

I have many friends who have come and settled here from Europe, setting up businesses giving local apprenticeships etc and many who come to work and then return home. I have enjoyed the benefits of being able to work in Europe too, my little brother is currently working in Germany as an Anthropology Professor, but for Miles he is just a lucky child of immigrants, despite being far more disabled than me and working in Britain and Europe, something clearly beyond Miles. Like myself he was born in the UK. Miles life sounds like a piece of piss in comparison and yet he is the one moaning.

Ah here it is, thanks Fenster.

1. Firstly Beanz I do have time for limited and controlled immigration. I have always stated that, so that assertion is an obvious lie. You do tend to tell quite a lot of lies and that is par for the course with you.

2. Secondly the notion that I could not 'make it in the UK' is a strange notion. I am not the one unable to afford bus tickets or selling my things. That was you in your mid 40's. I left the UK at 22 and settled down and educated myself in my field overseas. I can walk into a job tomorrow there and easily earn 16-20 pounds an hour, but why would I when I can earn 60 pounds an hour and get time off to do other things like staying healthy and studying language which is important. After all didn't you once call me a 'really shit immigrant'? That's charming, then you wonder why I say things back? I do not live in the UK because my family, work and life are here. I have been here a very long time. I left as a kid.

3. I only work mornings? Well, at least I work! I have no need to work all the hours God sends. As I have said elsewhere in my freelancing days I would do 40-48 hours a week class time and earned a small fortune doing so. I stopped as yes, it is a bit hard. In saying that though, I know I am well paid, so I plan intensively and ensure I provide the highest quality work I can. You can check out my references and evaluations, I have them all printed off. Nobody would ever question my work ethic.

4. Smart people upgrade their skills and manage to find schedules where the hours are less and the work more productive.

5. The reason I mock you over the benefits thing is simple. It is because you tell lies about me and twist things. In turn I do a little rib bending too. You honestly do not see it? I really couldn't care less if you claim benefits and to be honest wish you well in your work.

6. I am not moaning about myself. I am making arguments about societal changes on a forum. It is a free discussion. You represent yourself as do I and nothing more. Remember it is only a forum. Do I vent? Of course I do and so people should! Life is difficult sometimes and we all go through ecstatic highs and hell deep lows. This is our forum. We discuss and talk.

Look, if you want it to be more civil I am more than happy to do that and get on. Shall we give it a go?