If not for our flag-bearers, this site would be pretty boring between fights. :-)

[Gandalf]

Think about it. What the hell else to talk about between fights?

There's Trump.... but that gets old fast.

There's Brexit, but not all of us have all the facts to go beyond a superficial opinion (not including the British folks).

So who are these flag bearers?

Well..... we had Alpha, the Flat Earth flag bearer...... but you guys ran him off.

Now we have the return of Denilson, the White Supremacy flag bearer. He said he would only stick to boxing this time, but that lasted about as long as a Trump White House staffer.

Still trying to decide who's the flag bearer for Transgenderism. It's up in the air between Beanz and Fenster, only that Fenster took himself out of the running by stating he doesn't "care about trans." So that leaves Beanz.

So we have two flag bearers, and another one you guys ran off.



We need a substitute.

I am not sure it is worth trying to inject some honesty here or not. I think this thread is symptomatic of a general theme though, so maybe it is worth addressing.

I will start by saying that I am not sure where your hostility is coming from TitoFan but I really harbour no ill feelings toward you or anyone else on the forum, though I find many attitudes expressed to often be quite disgusting.

I am not the flag bearer for anything really, least of all trans anything. You have repeatedly accused me of having 'a dirty little agenda' for simply disagreeing with your own and many others opionion on the issue. I have never started a thread about it and if you look you will see that usually your posts on the subject outnumber mine by 5 to 1.

So if anything the reverse is actually true. The trans issue is something you and a few of your concerned fellow posters return to again and again. 50+ posts in the trans boxer thread to my 11 for example. It's daft but also quite dishonest to therefor pretend I am a flag bearer just because I don't share your, what I consider to be irrational, fears.

If I am a flag bearer for anything it is for music, art, boxing and the rights of disabled people as these have dominated and continue to dominate my professional working life, but do you know what?

I can't share any of that here. It has become a playground of toxicity in which people are more interested in inventing stories about others and positions for them to inhabit than sharing anything themselves. It's very sad people have to be reduced to caricatures and have to undergo years of character assassination just for expressing a different opinion.

Its incredibly boring. The forum wide sense of humor failure has not helped either.

Hypocrite. Much.

If you really belive that then explain what you mean by it and how I can change.

In the last week alone you have invented positions that I do not hold a number of times in the long tirades and along the way character assassinated me. I am not playing a victim as I am used to it and can hold my ground and push back, but it really does take two to tango.

Do you not see that by posting so aggressively and distorting what one says that you are creating a person that isn't actually there yourself too? Take the lesbians on the bus. My first comment was that it was a terrible attack and that yes I think people should also control their behavior as London is frankly an unsafe place, yet immediately you wanted to assume the worst and that I was somehow saying 'the lezzers were asking for it' or something like that. I am sure you know that is not what I think and that I would never give a nod to the teenagers and say 'Right, let them have it. They are snogging!' I am cool with gay life for goodness sake. I generally enjoy the company of gay people, I like sharp, snappy people who dress well.

I honestly think it would help if you would address the poster you are addressing and them alone too as I often have very different views to Peterson, Lyle, Dia, or whoever it might be. I am an individual, plus I don't think Jordan Peterson posts here anymore. Anyway stay cool and I can too. I am semi wincing expecting some tirade about what a liar I am and how I am somehow Jacob Rees Mogg or something. And he is of course terrible for the environment too. I am my own person.