If not for our flag-bearers, this site would be pretty boring between fights. :-)

[Gandalf]

Yes....and then later you accused me of saying that they were asking for it. I said it was a bad attack, asked who did it, and questioned why they would be snogging on a bus. Not quite as nefarious as you were trying to make out and your response was way over the top.

[Beanz]

Yes....and then later you accused me of saying that they were asking for it. I said it was a bad attack, asked who did it, and questioned why they would be snogging on a bus. Not quite as nefarious as you were trying to make out and your response was way over the top.

Then why even bring up the suggestion that they were trying to hide whether they had indeed kissed or not? Surely that is irrelevant? Nefarious? Well I suppose one could call your response appalling, and pretty outrageous considering your eagerness to blame diversity, and what you considered inappropriate displays of affections.

Homophobia and the violence associated with it is clearly alive and on the rise just like racist attacks. With that in mind in what way was my response over the top?

It sounds like you asking for special treatment or that I censor my posting when responding to you. I quite clearly expressed the hope that you had merely subscribed to stupidity and were not warped, but if you want to align yourself with that movement, you can't expect everyone to pat you on the back for doing so.

[Gandalf]

I think lesbians kissing at that time of the night in front of possibly intoxicated young thugs can very well invite unwanted attention. I don't understand why they would do it, that was my point. a) it is not respectful.due to it being a public place and b) it was in front of dangerous people. I don't think they deserve anything, but I can see why it happened. You or I think differently but neither of us would hurt them. These thugs were something else and that is my point. It really is riugh on late night buses. I didn't feel safe at times as a teenager going through Longsight or Salford and I wasn't kissing anyone. It's about looking out for yourself mire than anything. It's like when driving, I know everyone else is more dangerous to me than I am to them so I drive accordingly.

Fine you disagree that it matters who it was but I would like to know. Anyway, late here. Must rest.

[Gandalf]

Mobile typo's....grrr.