Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
Id like a couple of answers on very basic questions if possible please.
Why is there a curved shadow of Earth on the moon during an eclipse if its flat?
How are there tides with water rising and falling across the (excuse the expression):globe,which are running west to east at perfectly defined timed but varying intervals due to the moon if its dead flat and the argument is that the water is dead flat or level along with it?
Andre, by your post it is obvious that you haven’t bothered to look through the thread, there is a lot of information in here, especially regarding eclipses.

As for tides, I am happy to say I do not know what the actual cause is (I have my speculations: electromagnatism, temperature, nodes etc), but I know it is not the gravitational force of the moon. No lakes, of other bodies of water are affected. There are also amphidromic points (tidal node) locations all over that are not affected. You should do more research on tides.

If you would like to have a discussion, we would need to agree on first principles, to see where we agree and if there is any point in having a discussion.

So, could I ask:

Would you agree that it's an objective physical truth that a body of water will always take the shape of its container and the surface will always be level?

Anyway here’s a quick vid on eclipses: