Loma and Tank are STILL ducking!

[Ron Swanson]

That’s the point of activating mandatory positions, the sanctioning bodies don’t care about personal contracts. And the Haney’s have been very clear that the contract is set up that the can get around the rematch clause if Tank or Loma would enact their mandatory positions

About Ukrainians, yes, family, my wife, my boy, and my wife’s parents

Haney was just interviewed saying the rematch doesn't have to happen next. I'm guessing that's more because the Aussie doesn't want it and is making other plans rather than that Haney has the contractual right to avoid it. If he's saying that Davis and Lomachenko just have to ask for their mandatory then he's just trying to talk them into it. Lomachenko I can understand. Whatever he's up to with the Ukrainian army who he might fight next is the least of his worries. Davis has less of an excuse. Haney is with Top Rank though now. Unlikely Arum is going to rush to make a fight with Floyd and Haymon.

Loma isn’t with the military, he’s fighting in October. It could be Haney but he said specifically he wants a tuneup. It hasn’t even been a year, he doesn’t need a tuneup.

We can go around and around but fact is it’s been 3 years and a couple months Loma could fight Haney and he’s still choosing not to. That’s clear. That’s not interpretation. Haney became his mandatory, Loma gave up his belt to not fight him. Haney has all the belts, Loma has 2 mandatory positions, he’s still not fighting him. No interpretation, just facts

I was sure I'd read something about this but can't find it. I did find this and this:

https://www.boxingscene.com/haney-sa...m-most--166970


https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-new...-titles/223463

Haney says who he fights next depends on whether the Aussie wants the rematch or not. From what he said Saturday night it would appear the rematch option hasn't been exercised yet. Secondly Haney isn't going to fight at 135 again unless it's the rematch. Maybe a Lomachenko fight would change his mind. Davis isn't going to want to fight at 140 either.

The second article says that Lomachenko will return to the ring if he gets a chance to fight for the undisputed title. Nothing about a tune up fight. So it doesn't look like Lomachenko is dodging anybody.

As far as Lomachenko dodging Haney earlier by giving up his belt wasn't it just the WBC made him franchise champion and gave the regular belt to Haney? Lomachenko has been at the stage of his career where he's just looking for the biggest payday for a while now so Haney wouldn't have been an attractive option back then.

Haney became his mandatory in more than 3 years ago. And no, the wbc didn’t just make him the franchise champion, his team requested to be franchise champion. AND THEY LIED ABOUT IT.

First let’s look at the reasoning for elevation

“Haney was initially the mandatory challenger to world champion Vasiliy Lomachenko, who was elevated to the status of "franchise champion" - which allowed him to sidestep any obligation to fight Haney.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/amp/wbc-...-champ--149024


Now let’s look at Loma lying that he didn’t ask to be elevated

He said: ‘I read an interview with [WBC president] Mauricio Sulaiman, he said we filed a request to be awarded the ‘franchise’ title.

‘I would like to make it clear I did not file anything and no-one asked for it. When I read that, I was very surprised.’

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/20/vasyl...-11188150/amp/

And you can watch Sulaymaniyah confirm that Loma requested the elevation :30 into this video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sCCYdI0CDWc

Search “Arum denies requesting franchise belt”, you will find nothing, which says everything

As for why Haney is most interested in those 2 guys, they are the only ones capable of getting him out of his obligation to fight Kambosos. They would be his mandatories if they chose to apply their status. Both refuse.

I can’t recall where I read that Loma said he wanted a tuneup but when I remember I will post it.

While I try to remember where I read Loma wanted a tuneup. Here’s Arum today saying they aren’t even looking at Haney. They’re looking at a tuneup then Shakur Stevenson

“Lomachenko (16-2, 11 KOs) will need to be given leave from the Ukrainian military and fight a tune-up match in October before this fight can occur.”

https://www.fightsports.tv/bob-arum-wants-vasyl-lomachenko-vs-shakur-stevenson-for-2023/