Who is next for Canelo?

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let me rephrase the question. do you think it's reasonable for a fighter to propose that another fighter come down 20 pounds for a fight?

it's not like badou is the first fighter who would have had to drop 20 pounds from his previous fight weight. archie moore did more than that a couple of times in his career. roy jones jr dropped 18 pounds to come back down to fight antonio tarver. james toney dropped 31 pounds to come back down to cruiserweight & 25 pounds to fight earl butler, ossie ocasio dropped about 27 pounds, orlin norris did it a couple of times, glenn mccrory & others

To be clear, I've never been a fan of ANY of those huge weight swings. Speaking of which... how did it go for RJJ against Tarver? The human body is not meant to absorb huge "see-saw" weight gains and drops, and still allow athletic competition at a world-class level. It's freakish, and lends a circus-like atmosphere to the sport. Toney was at his best at the lower weights, but became an artificially blown-up fat ass heavyweight. I was never a fan of that, nor of his huge weight drops.

But never mind all that. Here's the biggest difference between all of what you've said, and Canelo asking Badou to drop 20 pounds. Ready?

Canelo is a high-profile, money-making machine in boxing. Overhyped and manufactured, in my opinion, as you are well aware. For him to specifically target much higher weight fighters by ASKING them to drop 20 pounds and then supposedly fight for a (cough) "title" at that higher weight... well... it's disgraceful, cheap, and fits his career M.O. perfectly. Remember... you asked.

The fighters you mentioned dropped all that weight on their own volition. Because they WANTED to. Not because they were asked by some diva punk, who thinks it's ok to pick up a cruiserweight title from a 200-pounder who has had to drain himself to 180. Badou's dismissal of Canelo was perfect.

Finally... Toney, RJJ... all started at much lower weights. So at least in Toney's case, all he did was drop a lot of FAT. It's like dropping off the extra luggage you had picked up when you found out the taxi cab you were expecting was actually a scooter.
Badou, by contrast, is a workmanlike fighter, who just goes about his business and eschews all those circus-like weight shenanigans.
I hope he literally told Ginger to go f*ck himself.

I honestly hope I've answered your questions on this. The harder you try and justify Ginger on some of his antics... the worse he looks.

okay so you don't think it's reasonable for a fighter to propose that another fighter come down 20 pounds for a fight

roy jones won the fight with antonio, although it was a tough fight, antonio was a good fighter so i'd say it went well for roy

we'll have to agree to dusagree about the human body being to absorb huge "see-saw" weight gains and drops, and still allow athletic competition at a world-class level. many of the fighters i mentioned performed at world-class levels after the drop

you may not have been a fan of james toney's weight drops but he still dropped the weight

you are unable to separate canelo from the discussion. the rephrased question doesn't mention canelo at all, it asks about a fighter proposing another fighter to drop weight. but since you brought him up again, what weight division would a catchweight of 180 be in?

saying the fighters i mentioned dropped all that weight on their own volition is not entirely true. no fighter wants to drop 20 pounds willingly. they did it because they thought it was best for their careers. archie moore was being made to jump through hoops to get a fight with rocky marciano, bouncy up & down in weight. i could argue that badou was unwlling to do what other fighters have done, seems to be working out great for his career. i'm sure bridgerweight will do wonders for him

badou also started at a lower weight & spent much of his career at super middle. james toney still had to dedicte himself to cut the weight because he thought it was best for his career

do you really think canelo cares that badou turned down the opportunity? canelo is still getting his guarantees & fighting, what has badou being doing in the ring over the last year?

again the rephrased question had nothing to do with canelo. try to separate him from the actual discussion taking place