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Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
canelo's chin is much better than andre's. bernard started out at light heavy & only remained at middleweight through dedication like marvin & gennady did. bernard could have remained at middle but there was nothing left for him to do there, so he moved up two weights for the antonio tarver fight
Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
canelo's chin is much better than andre's.
How do we know this? No doubt Canelo has a great chin. We know that because it’s been tested on a number of occasions.
But we don’t know about Ward because quite frankly, I’m not sure he’s ever been tested in that department. He’s never looked uncomfortable in a fight from what I can remember.
bernard started out at light heavy & only remained at middleweight through dedication like marvin & gennady did. [/QUOTE]
And the exact same could be said about Ward.

[/QUOTE] bernard could have remained at middle but there was nothing left for him to do there, so he moved up two weights for the antonio tarver fight[/QUOTE]

Again, the exact same could be said about Ward. Ward beat everyone.
It’s very difficult to surmise about a fighter when he’s never been beat, because you’re in unknown territory. And Ward was unbeaten since he was 11.[/QUOTE]

if andre has never looked uncomfortable to you in a fight then you haven't watched enough of his fights

you said

"Hopkins was a natural LMW/MW only moving up the weights with age"

i disagree with that & pointed out that bernard started out as a light heavy. i think bernard was more a natural light heavyweight

i watched andre lose, although he got the decision. andre's record is also very decptive. his best wins are over overrated carl & mikkel