I say a guy is the 13th best fighter in the world and that makes me a hater?? Only one of us is being a raging fanatic here.Originally Posted by 7777
Sure, but--with the exception of JMM, who's not actually on my top 10 and Pacquiao, who I don't think you can really argue is lower p4p than Ricky--they were all to other top 10 fighters. MAB, B-Hop . . . . The fact that Castillo got stopped well after Corrales would have been counted out if he hadn't cheated and spit out his mouthpiece multiple times doesn't knock him down the list for me, sorry. I'll knock him down if he loses to Hatton. I guess you'd put Nikolay Valuev at #3 since Pac lost a year ago and Valuev is undefeated and has an alphabet strap, right?Originally Posted by 7777
Oscar de la Hoya. James Toney. (neither are on my list--though, come to think of it, Oscar is better than Hatton) plenty of others, also not on my list. read my points again, 2 out of 4 of those fights are against complete bums. an alphabet strap is irrelevant to the p4p list. the fact that you won it from someone is also fairly irrelevant if that person was a bum like Maussa or Urango.Originally Posted by 7777
I don't think destroying Mitchell stands for much, but that was actually 7 months earlier. And happened a full 22 months after his previous fight. And Tszyu didn't have his injured shoulder in that fight. Maybe you missed that part. Anyway, I'm not saying he didn't deserve to win--I had him up by a point against a clearly un-prime KT. He deserved to win.Originally Posted by 7777
Do you want to bring up how the HBO guys had it for Hatton too? Hatton has a much bigger upside, and is a much bigger investment for a lot of people than Collazo is. Collazo may have been at "home" (not really, since boston and NYC are rival cities), but Ricky is the celebrity, not Collazo. But nearly every boxing columnist in the country had it a draw or 114-113 for Collazo. The fans were booing.Originally Posted by 7777
Like I said, if he proves he's really the man at 140 by beating Castillo, then I'll put him at #8.Originally Posted by 7777
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