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Obviously Jorge Solis was unheard fighter until he ran into Pac.
I agree, Solis was unknown in every sense of the word.

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Pac was a nobody until he ran into champs like Lebwaba and Barrera.
I disagree here Pac WASN'T a nobody. The fact that he was in the smaller weight classes and we all know they don't get much attention is one thing. But to say he was a nobody until he faced Ledwaba or MAB is IMO wrong. Pac was a former Flyweight Champ. he was struggling to make weight as a Flyweight and paid the price there. I wouldn't call him a nobody, I would call him a former champ.

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He defeated them both convincingly by KO.
I agree.

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Bigger and fully motivated Solis failed to do what Pac accomplished.
Bigger yes.
Fully motivated NO, take it from me I know/understand spanish Solis the figher tells his brother (I forget in which round) 'Man hes slapping the sh*t out of me' Solis the brother tells him 'It's OK, your gonna be OK it's nothing' Solis the fighter says 'Yeah! but hes slapping me around hard' Solis the brother tells him 'It's OK, just go out there and fight it's gonna be OK'..... Not fully motivated if you ask me.

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Pac defeated below 30s future hall of famers.
You forget to mention that he lost a fight to one of those Hall of Famers....

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A prime DeLa Hoya would whoop PBF's butt.
Prime MAB & ERIK would beat PAC also. Erik already proved that.....

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Pac vs PBF match up is rediculous. There's no way that will happen.
I agree on this theres no way this fight will ever happen...
Not only due to weight issues but I really think PBF would not take the fight and thats me being as honest as I can be.....

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That is NOT how you rate p4p raking.
Thats right you gotta look at the career all around.
which include: boxing ability, power, defense, ring generalship, experience, quality of oppostion, chin, stamina, titles.
I'm impressed with your assessment.

I'm glad you see things the way I do,..

..not all, but most.

Erik Morales did beat Manny in their first bout. Erik was even toying with Manny in 12th round.

Erik's machismo kicked-in, switched to southpaw stand, and almost got himself KTFO

If there was a 13th round, EM would've knocked out. It was a close fight.

Manny fought with big cut in his eyebrow.

But I kinda glad Manny lost that fight. If it hadn't for that fight, there would have not been 1 of the greatest trilogy in boxing history.

Cheerio...