UFO's & Ghosts

[Kev]

The exsistance of atleast one other "intelligent" species of life greatly dimenishes the importance of human exsistance from a universal perspective. I think its statitically (i don't put a lot of stock in numbers because as with religion and words, these too were made to help man understand his world and there's some numbers that have to exist that technically, due to our system, can't be accurately represented) impossible that we are the only species of "intelligent" life in the universe when you bring into perspect the scale of the whole thing. A lot of scientists are too focused on numbers and a lot of religious people are too focused on a belief system handed down to them by their ancestors. The answer is somewhere in the middle and its very VERY confusing.

If there was this amazing process where "god" created the first humans than wouldn't it be common place that everyone agreed on the exact same thing? I mean they'd have visual proof that a lot of us today do not. When was the first bible written? Egyptians had the ability to write on things well into the bc years yet they believed that there were many gods. How can you say that a poly/monotheist belief system is wrong when you yourself have never seen the very thing you believe in?

I don't think religion or any other inanimate object is to blame for the actions of people. People have free will they can choose whether to hate or not. It is true that we could all look the same (same skin, eye, and hair color as well as the same height and weight for just about everyone) and we would still find a way to hate each other over "differences". Humans are pattern seeking animals and are developed to think in terms of ratio instead of pure value (the difference between 1 and 4 is the same as the difference between 101 and 104 however the human mind will see 4 as MUCH larger than one as opposed to it seeing 101 and 104 as roughly the same size because the former is 4 times the value). So if you became suspicious of a person, despite their alikeness to you, you would "pick-up" (make up is probably more accurate) a pattern of behavior from them that you dislike and find "harmful" to the general population.

I have to say that the New Age thing you hate so much Bilbo, I wont endulge with them for other reasons.
It will eventually pass ,all things do.
I study and practice a very ancient path nothing new about it at all.
There are truths and half truths or as some say serpentine truths.
But if you want (the truth) you have to first (care to really know )then ask for it to show up and it will in whatever form you can handle at whatever stage your at. This I cant prove 'for you',only you can ask from the heart. If you have the guts to do so,it will turn up in some form and you will begin your own about face and return from self emposed seperation.
In regards New Age , I see them mostly as people worshiping the tools of the universe or God instead of looking to where it and they all stem from.These new age people are the same as the ones who are scared of the light of love, scared of their own shadows, scared of where they have originated from.

Religion is man made and its just another place for many others to hide away in too.



I find it funny that people think it is a weakness to hold a belife other than the one they belive.

It is what causes war it is what continues their own personal seperation from other humans and other life forms.
It is the 'them and us 'syndrome that this 3rd dimension of life keeps bringing to the boil rising it to the top and frying it in the light of Gods sun.
This world is going so fast now regarding progression due to knowledge being released,science catching up via new measureing implements etc that if you feel threatened from any of it now wait until all the lines meet in agreement.

On another note:
My daughter at the age of twelve years looked behind a middle aged female friend of ours and said I can see a tall man behind you.
She asked if he had any messages for her.
My daughter said HE is your relative and he is here to protect your new born from others in this old area of Sydney.
The LAdy was smart she asked my daughter for proof.
My daughter turned to her and said "BIg shoulders" and the lady cried and said "ITs my grandfather" I can only remember one thing and that was him carrying me around everywhere laying down across his shoulders with my head one end and my feet the other.
That was a business woman and that all happened out of the blue.

I think this plain we live in is actually 4 dimensional. My very limited and unproven idea for this comes from the fact that scientists have made renderings of 4d, 5d, and beyond objects that are visible within a 3d plane. If you made a model out of them, you would see that the "hypercube" and whatever else they call the above dimensions are actually just wierdly shaped 3d objects. It's my belief that only the first three dimensions are physical and the next two (or more) are something else (spiritual, conscious, etc.).

In order to truely see a 2dimensional object would you not have to be atleast one dimension above that? If you look down at a square (a 2d square so that is you would look solely at the side you would see nothing because width is non existant in this case) you're view point is a dimension thats not compatible with a 2d object. you can move left and right and up and down (within the square) but looking up or down (past the square boundaries) is a 3rd dimensional viewpoint. So by the same token if we can visually isolate 3d objects, which are all around us, wouldn't it be because he have yet another dimension we are looking from?

Thats probably not the best example but do you atleast see what i'm trying to say?

Not really sure what you are trying to say in all honesty. I understand your point regarding our limitations as a finite human with only 5 senses to be able to see and experience everything in our universe but that is really just a long winded approach to saying that we can't ever really know anything for sure which just puts us back to where we started from.

I believe the biblical model is best because it's the only religious text or indeed belief system that is grounded in actual history, rather than abstract ideas and fantasy.

Sure the miraculous stories are a matter for faith as they cannot be proven but the fact that God laid out the entire history of a nation that He would create, and the fact that we can ourselves study the actual history of this nation and compare it to the biblical picture is tremendously powerful evidence imo.

Anyone who wants to understand the meaning of life and whether there is a God or not has to read the bible from cover to cover before they can even enter into the discussion imo.

I don't say this as a fundamentalist Christian, I am not, but the difference in quality between the biblical world view and any other religious book or belief system is immense.

It has become fashionable these days of multicultural societies and in a scientific age to group every book of faith together, to see them as all equally viable and then to label them as being matters of pure faith with no evidence to suppor them.

But this is a completely and utterly inerrent viewpoint. The bible is the most studied book in human history, teams of archaelogists have gone out to either prove or disprove the bible, people have tried to study the bible for inconsistencies and textual errors and of course people have sought for hundreds of years to prove or disprove the miraculous stories, interperet biblical prophecies and make sense of the book's moral guidlines.

The fact remains that despite all of the criticisms and attacks the book still stands unscathed to this day and nobody has been able to disprove even one part of it.

The only times it conflicts with our present understanding is in matters of science where science views evidence through an entirely different world view. For example the bible teaches that the earth was made recently and that the geological structures in our world were formed through catastraphism, namely a global flood. Science now rejects this and believe that present day erosional processes formed the geological rock strata that we see today, over hundreds of millions of years, rather than a few thousand.

It is also important to note that the age of the earth and the universe have been arbitarily set by scientists to give them the amount of time needed for their evolutionary theories to work. In the last hundred years they have typically added a billion or more years to the age of the universe every decade.

There are a million and one evidences that completely disprove the theory of evolution however agreement by consensus is the strongest form of 'truth' to most humans, who will laugh and ridicule anyone who dares to disagree but who themselves have accepted their own world view completely on blind faith in the men in white coats who tell them how the world is.

If you really want to try and unravel the mysteries of the universe you need to evaluate everything from the beginning. Don't just start by accepting that evolution is true and that the bible is just a book of faith like any other. Instead first off study evolution, examine the evidences both for and against and read the bible completely from cover to cover.

I guarantee your worldview will experience a paradigm shift that you could not begin to imagine right now.