Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post

Geezus, I could go on for a while...

I'll allow you to rubutle if you'd like but the facts remain...

Is ODLH a good fighter? Yes...


Has he made sellout and career decisions that have worked against him even while winning and gaining "fans"

Yes...
The thing about being a boxing fan, where you're talking boxing everyday on a forum like this is that we all form a sense of tunnel vision.. Sometimes it's hard to see and realize what the general public feels, and we forget that unfortunately, in a sport like boxing where their is not a HUGE fan base whatsoever, the general public has a lot of pull.... and what i mean by that is when there is a "megafight" coming up, the amount of people who aren't "huge" boxing fans like us (the general public) take up the large majority of the PPV buys.. These are the people who have a like for the sport of boxing, but couldn't name 3 lightweights.. i feel that that group of people are the majority of PPV buys, as opposed to us avid fans who are simply just too small of a group to be the MAIN target for the fights..

so, with all that said, ODLH being the face of boxing, being a good looking, well mannered, GREAT fighter, is VERY appealing to the mainstream of society.. And anytime you have a mainstream crowd that bows down to one specific fighter (or with music even.. when everyone LOVED britney spears because she appealed to the mainstream, regardless of the fact that she was a talentless whore).. it's easy to be a critic..

So i think that is where all the hatred comes from.. It's easy to criticize and pick apart someone, and go against the grain..

unfortunately ODLH is a hell of a fighter, with one of the best resume's i've ever seen, so there lies the mixture of haters/fans..

so that's my only problem POB.. you can't blame him for his gift decisions.. in fact he at least owns up to the fact that he wasn't the best in those fights.. the one that comes to mind is the vargas fight.. my problem is that the guy has balls.. he fought the best when he was in his prime, and he's still fighting the best.. regardless of how much money he makes, or how he tries to sell his fights, he still has balls to get in the ring with the best competition.. so i can't hate on the guy..

I entirly agree with your post from start to finish.


I DO think that his mainstream appeal probably has alot to do with it... Maybe it's even a little bit of revile for the people that know only his and Tyson's name... It's really hard to tell, though... But like I said above... For as many things as I can say against him I can say for him... His KO of Mayorga was GREAT... Him standing up to the P4P#1 was ballsy...

Like I said... I enjoy most of his fights but he is not on my favorite fighter list cuz he doesn't embody the atributes I love in my fighters... This is not to say I will not give credit where it's due

I'm not even close to a hater...

And I entirely agree that the decisions are not his fault but I still for some reason(right or wrong) resent him for them...




Just saying how I feel... Everyone else can feel how they want.

... But nice post RP33... I agree