Why the hatred against ODLH?

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I have been curious about this for a while now here in the forum. I'll say 95% of the people on this forum utterly hate ODLH. I could understand why people would hate Mayweather, Naz, Mike Tyson, Hopkins, etc. I mean, they have shown to be talk trash about others, have no charisma, unrespectful, etc. Even outside the ring. But, OSCAR?! He is far from being a trash talk, having no charisma, being unrespectful, etc. He is a gentleman and has fought whoever, just look at his resume. He has brought boxing some of the most exciting fights.
It seems that everything he does is just wrong no matter what. Cotto faced a lesser opponent and everybody was happy. Oscar did the same thing and everybody thought that was the worse thing ever done. Someone can do whatever but if Oscar does the same then it is simply unacceptable. I don't understand.
Let's say Oscar wins his next last 2 fights. I wonder if people in this forum will admit that he did a good job with no excuse and give him credit.

Why do you hate Oscar?

I USED to be a fan of DLH but as POB has said...DLH has become phony...he tried too hard the other night to overplay how tough Forbes was...And that is of no disrespect to Forbes he is a hell of a nice guy and a skilled fighter but with that being said...DLH acted as though he was trying to convince people of the opposite of what that fight was....A hand picked opponent...Nothing more nothing less...anyone who says different is blinded by fanboy light....

ANYONE in the 154lb division and I am speaking of full fledged 154lb fighters would have been able to fight him....Any of the champions would have taken the fight....

Forrest would have taken the fight even with the Morea bout coming up....

He did not choose Spinks because he knows he would have sapent the night looking old and foolish....Verno Phillips would have taken the fight...again it would not have mattered to either that they fought a month ago...all this bout had to do was be moved forward 2 or 3 weeks....Alcine more then open...The payday any of them garnered for a fight with DLH would have gladly found a way to have time for him....Kirkland Baldomir, Santos.....but DLH wanted an easy night where he woukld look great and dominate...a fight where he could sit at the press conference and say "I'M BACK"...and make fans clamour for the PBF rematch......It never happened...Forbes lost but spoiled Oscars plans.....

DLH is phoney, he is about as genuine as a $3.00 bill...He was a great fighter who I will say has always made sure he fought the best....His resume may be the best in the last 50 years but....That was then this is now....Either fight or promote...Don't fight just because you can promote your bouts and always make sure you are the main attraction....Like a spoiled little girl....

and for those who like to applaud him for his brilliance of being such a successful promoter and building up GBP so much....Truth is Oscar is only the face of the company...it is his popularity that they use and while he is CEO he does very little of the operations except make sure he is present at all public functions...he does not make the fights, sign the fighters, come up with the matches, or anything else that Don King and Bob Arum did to become who they are.....Yet he will not give credit to those who do....all he ever says is "WE"....

Those are just a few of the reasons I dislike Oscar

I agree and I thought that the most rediculous thing I've seen in a while...(I just need to reiterate cuz it went up my as sideways) Was when it talked about him going back to his roots at this tiny gym... Was it me or did the godenboy fairy vomit all over that place... New ring and all.

My favorte thing last week was the countdown where dream on is playing in the background and there is the gayest montage I've ever seen with oscar looking up thoughtfully leaning against the goldenboy plastered "OLD" gym... All it was missing was him running into the surf grappling for apollo creed...

[HattonTheHammer]

[quote=PRIDE OF BOSTON;511780]

I have been curious about this for a while now here in the forum. I'll say 95% of the people on this forum utterly hate ODLH. I could understand why people would hate Mayweather, Naz, Mike Tyson, Hopkins, etc. I mean, they have shown to be talk trash about others, have no charisma, unrespectful, etc. Even outside the ring. But, OSCAR?! He is far from being a trash talk, having no charisma, being unrespectful, etc. He is a gentleman and has fought whoever, just look at his resume. He has brought boxing some of the most exciting fights.
It seems that everything he does is just wrong no matter what. Cotto faced a lesser opponent and everybody was happy. Oscar did the same thing and everybody thought that was the worse thing ever done. Someone can do whatever but if Oscar does the same then it is simply unacceptable. I don't understand.
Let's say Oscar wins his next last 2 fights. I wonder if people in this forum will admit that he did a good job with no excuse and give him credit.

Why do you hate Oscar?

I USED to be a fan of DLH but as POB has said...DLH has become phony...he tried too hard the other night to overplay how tough Forbes was...And that is of no disrespect to Forbes he is a hell of a nice guy and a skilled fighter but with that being said...DLH acted as though he was trying to convince people of the opposite of what that fight was....A hand picked opponent...Nothing more nothing less...anyone who says different is blinded by fanboy light....

ANYONE in the 154lb division and I am speaking of full fledged 154lb fighters would have been able to fight him....Any of the champions would have taken the fight....

Forrest would have taken the fight even with the Morea bout coming up....

He did not choose Spinks because he knows he would have sapent the night looking old and foolish....Verno Phillips would have taken the fight...again it would not have mattered to either that they fought a month ago...all this bout had to do was be moved forward 2 or 3 weeks....Alcine more then open...The payday any of them garnered for a fight with DLH would have gladly found a way to have time for him....Kirkland Baldomir, Santos.....but DLH wanted an easy night where he woukld look great and dominate...a fight where he could sit at the press conference and say "I'M BACK"...and make fans clamour for the PBF rematch......It never happened...Forbes lost but spoiled Oscars plans.....

DLH is phoney, he is about as genuine as a $3.00 bill...He was a great fighter who I will say has always made sure he fought the best....His resume may be the best in the last 50 years but....That was then this is now....Either fight or promote...Don't fight just because you can promote your bouts and always make sure you are the main attraction....Like a spoiled little girl....

and for those who like to applaud him for his brilliance of being such a successful promoter and building up GBP so much....Truth is Oscar is only the face of the company...it is his popularity that they use and while he is CEO he does very little of the operations except make sure he is present at all public functions...he does not make the fights, sign the fighters, come up with the matches, or anything else that Don King and Bob Arum did to become who they are.....Yet he will not give credit to those who do....all he ever says is "WE"....

Those are just a few of the reasons I dislike Oscar

I agree and I thought that the most rediculous thing I've seen in a while...(I just need to reiterate cuz it went up my as sideways) Was when it talked about him going back to his roots at this tiny gym... Was it me or did the godenboy fairy vomit all over that place... New ring and all.

My favorte thing last week was the countdown where dream on is playing in the background and there is the gayest montage I've ever seen with oscar looking up thoughtfully leaning against the goldenboy plastered "OLD" gym... All it was missing was him running into the surf grappling for apollo creed...[/quote]

[DaxxKahn]

I have been curious about this for a while now here in the forum. I'll say 95% of the people on this forum utterly hate ODLH. I could understand why people would hate Mayweather, Naz, Mike Tyson, Hopkins, etc. I mean, they have shown to be talk trash about others, have no charisma, unrespectful, etc. Even outside the ring. But, OSCAR?! He is far from being a trash talk, having no charisma, being unrespectful, etc. He is a gentleman and has fought whoever, just look at his resume. He has brought boxing some of the most exciting fights.
It seems that everything he does is just wrong no matter what. Cotto faced a lesser opponent and everybody was happy. Oscar did the same thing and everybody thought that was the worse thing ever done. Someone can do whatever but if Oscar does the same then it is simply unacceptable. I don't understand.
Let's say Oscar wins his next last 2 fights. I wonder if people in this forum will admit that he did a good job with no excuse and give him credit.

Why do you hate Oscar?

I USED to be a fan of DLH but as POB has said...DLH has become phony...he tried too hard the other night to overplay how tough Forbes was...And that is of no disrespect to Forbes he is a hell of a nice guy and a skilled fighter but with that being said...DLH acted as though he was trying to convince people of the opposite of what that fight was....A hand picked opponent...Nothing more nothing less...anyone who says different is blinded by fanboy light....

ANYONE in the 154lb division and I am speaking of full fledged 154lb fighters would have been able to fight him....Any of the champions would have taken the fight....

Forrest would have taken the fight even with the Morea bout coming up....

He did not choose Spinks because he knows he would have sapent the night looking old and foolish....Verno Phillips would have taken the fight...again it would not have mattered to either that they fought a month ago...all this bout had to do was be moved forward 2 or 3 weeks....Alcine more then open...The payday any of them garnered for a fight with DLH would have gladly found a way to have time for him....Kirkland Baldomir, Santos.....but DLH wanted an easy night where he woukld look great and dominate...a fight where he could sit at the press conference and say "I'M BACK"...and make fans clamour for the PBF rematch......It never happened...Forbes lost but spoiled Oscars plans.....

DLH is phoney, he is about as genuine as a $3.00 bill...He was a great fighter who I will say has always made sure he fought the best....His resume may be the best in the last 50 years but....That was then this is now....Either fight or promote...Don't fight just because you can promote your bouts and always make sure you are the main attraction....Like a spoiled little girl....

and for those who like to applaud him for his brilliance of being such a successful promoter and building up GBP so much....Truth is Oscar is only the face of the company...it is his popularity that they use and while he is CEO he does very little of the operations except make sure he is present at all public functions...he does not make the fights, sign the fighters, come up with the matches, or anything else that Don King and Bob Arum did to become who they are.....Yet he will not give credit to those who do....all he ever says is "WE"....

Those are just a few of the reasons I dislike Oscar

I agree and I thought that the most rediculous thing I've seen in a while...(I just need to reiterate cuz it went up my as sideways) Was when it talked about him going back to his roots at this tiny gym... Was it me or did the godenboy fairy vomit all over that place... New ring and all.

My favorte thing last week was the countdown where dream on is playing in the background and there is the gayest montage I've ever seen with oscar looking up thoughtfully leaning against the goldenboy plastered "OLD" gym... All it was missing was him running into the surf grappling for apollo creed...

LOL....Funny thing is he was thinking about what it would have been like to be hugging Carl Weathers on a beach while leaning on the poster...

WTF is he talking about going back to the "Old" days...DLH has not been in a sweatbox type hardcore old school gym since he was a kid....The second he made national champion as an amatuer and especially when he made the olympic team he has been in nothing but the best gyms available....

The "Old" Days....

[Chino]

See, whatever Oscar does is considered bad. Why would he need to fight in a worn out gym or whatever? Even PAC came over to the USA to train instead of staying in his old Manila gym. But then again, that is fine and totally acceptable, but if Oscar does it oh no no no no no, that is so bad. So what if he trains on a parking lot or in a fancy gym?

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

See, whatever Oscar does is considered bad. Why would he need to fight in a worn out gym or whatever? Even PAC came over to the USA to train instead of staying in his old Manila gym. But then again, that is fine and totally acceptable, but if Oscar does it oh no no no no no, that is so bad. So what if he trains on a parking lot or in a fancy gym?

Cuz goddamnit carl weathers said so... No, seriously though there is truth to grittiness inspiring hunger inspiring greatness.

And as to the HOF question?... Absolutly!

[DaxxKahn]

See, whatever Oscar does is considered bad. Why would he need to fight in a worn out gym or whatever? Even PAC came over to the USA to train instead of staying in his old Manila gym. But then again, that is fine and totally acceptable, but if Oscar does it oh no no no no no, that is so bad. So what if he trains on a parking lot or in a fancy gym?

No one can care less if he trains in the basement of the YMCA or in the most lavish Gym available....OSCAR IS THE ONE WHO MADE SURE THAT HE MENTIONED THE "OLD DAYS " ON TYV AND WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GYM WAS SHOWN IN THE 24/7 SERIES.....That is no one else fault but Oscars...Please explain what need was there to put extra focus on that?...what did it have to do with anything?...

It didn't.....Think before you post...Your starting to look as stupid as he does

[Howlin Mad Missy]

See, whatever Oscar does is considered bad. Why would he need to fight in a worn out gym or whatever? Even PAC came over to the USA to train instead of staying in his old Manila gym. But then again, that is fine and totally acceptable, but if Oscar does it oh no no no no no, that is so bad. So what if he trains on a parking lot or in a fancy gym?

No one can care less if he trains in the basement of the YMCA or in the most lavish Gym available....OSCAR IS THE ONE WHO MADE SURE THAT HE MENTIONED THE "OLD DAYS " ON TYV AND WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GYM WAS SHOWN IN THE 24/7 SERIES.....That is no one else fault but Oscars...Please explain what need was there to put extra focus on that?...what did it have to do with anything?...

It didn't.....Think before you post...Your starting to look as stupid as he does

I dunno what this 24/7 series is but christ on a bike - most gyms are shit holes and would love a new ring. You're hating on a guy for that? That's pretty sad.

[wbcheavywieght]

I like ODLH hes is the man. Hes the guy everyone wants to fight, Big fight with Oscar is Big money. Its no wonder why all the fighters say "I want Oscar" because win or lose at the end of the day its a nice works paycheck..

[BIG H]

Oscar De La Hoya is one of my favourite fighters of all time. I can't think of anybody in the last 15 years that has fought absolutely everybody that they should have, i.e Trinidad, Quartey, Whitaker, Vargas, Mosely, Hopkins, PBF. Look at the opposition of Hopkins or RJJ compared to ODLH, they guy never took an easy route and I rspect that

[DaxxKahn]

Oscar De La Hoya is one of my favourite fighters of all time. I can't think of anybody in the last 15 years that has fought absolutely everybody that they should have, i.e Trinidad, Quartey, Whitaker, Vargas, Mosely, Hopkins, PBF. Look at the opposition of Hopkins or RJJ compared to ODLH, they guy never took an easy route and I rspect that

That can ot be denied...I stated myself his resume is fantastic...The best the sport has seen in the last 50 years...Point is though his actions lately have made him a bit of an ass....5 years ago...Make that even a year ago I was a big DLH fan and I respect all he has accomplished in the sport but he has become the opposite of what he used to be.......

It just amazes me how some peole actually think he walks on water...If DLH want to take an easy fight I have no problems with that...If he wanted a fight to get himself back in the swing of things etc I have no problem with that but when a guy like that who has had the kind of career he has starts trying to make things out to be something they are not...I have a problem with that.....

I have had the same criticizm to other fighter in the past who are great...

I blasted RJJ years ago when he faced part time fighter Richard Frazier and acted as if it was the greatest win in his career when the fight was over...At the time he was staying away from Calzaghe and Dariusz like the had small pox....Nothing to be proud of when you are the P4P #1 fighter in the world and you beat up a part time fighter with a less then admirable resume then act as though you just went in and bveat a prime Archie Moore.....To accept things like that or pretend the fights are more then what they actually were is IMO putting a black eye on the sport...

I have no problems with the fights and I understand having to build up the fights before they take place to sell tickest but after the fight is over don't piss in a cup and tell us all you made lemonade

[the wiz]

One reason: GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS

[denilson200]

I dislike DLH. Has DLH beaten a great fighter in his prime ? Sure he has beat a lot of B+ fighters (Quartey, Ruelas, Vargas, Mayorga and a Chavez on the downhill) but the three best fighter's he's fought were Trinidad, Hopkins and PBF.

His record against them ? 0 - 3 - 0

(Actually he beat P.Whittaker so I guess he has, but that was a dodgy decision)

But he's fighting PBF and we are all gonna add to the DHL / PBF pension fund. I ain't gonna watch it.

Boxing rematches ONLY happen for two reasons

1) It was a great fight so the public want to see it again
2) The fight ended in controversy (BAD decision, BAD stoppage, BAD cut)

DLH Vs PFB 1 was neither.

It was a terrible fight and as for those people who say name some other fighters that have more of a chance of beating PBF. It's not about that. He had his chance. He lost. So he should go to the back of the queue or fight a Cotto or Magarito to prove his worth. It's as simple as that. If you want to take that argument to its extreme then Ali should have fought Frazier 10 times throughout the 70's because, well, Frazier was one of only a few heavyweights who could have beaten Ali.

Anyway what it is with DLH ? The guy has lost three of his last six fights. Mayweather talks about leaving a legacy but if he fights DLH and not Cotto this will tarnish his reputation and if he loses (which he could do) then every ounce of respect that people have given for him after the Hatton fight will diminish.

[Chino]

So he should go to the back of the queue or fight a Cotto or Magarito to prove his worth.

To prove his worth it is way better to beat Mayweather than Margarito or Cotto unless both of them were better than Mayweather which is hard to believe. To prove your worth you fight the best, not opponents who have been exposed already.