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1. Joe Louis
2. Rocky Marciano
3. Muhamed Ali
Ali would have schooled and humiliated both Marciano & Louis.
It was a different era, Valuev would probably have beaten Marciano with his 1'3" height advantage and 123lb weight advantage, does that mean he should be remembered as a great, I think not. Ali is up there with the greats, I just think he convinced more people he was the best, rather than actually being the best
He did a lot of talking but he did it in the ring too.

This list does all the talking that is needed to convinced, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Ernie Terrell, Joe Frazier, Jerry Quarry, Ken Norton, George Foreman, Ernie Shavers, Ron Lyle and there's more to that. Oh and he got stripped of 3 years of his prime and still racked up more quality wins then any heavyweight ever. It's truly extraordinary.

I think you have a better case of calling Larry Holmes as greater then Ali, Holmes got to 48-0 and then was robbed of 49-0.