where does that rate in the all time great pac performances??

[Taeth]

I had it 114-112 for marq in the 1st and 114-113 for marq in the 2nd.

The 1st fight in particular grinds my gears still, even with 3 knockdowns you can only ever score a round 10-7 and after that he must of won at least 8 of the remaining 11 rounds!!

The more I watch the second fight I can't see how people have Marquez winning, it was definitely a close fight, but compubox was BS in that fight, and Marquez didn't clearly win as many rounds as Pcaquaio in that fight. Same with the first fight NO WAY did Marquez win 8 of the 11 rounds. Watch them again. marquez wins the middle rounds in both fights then Pacquaio comes back late.

I thought Marquez swept the last 2 rounds in there 2nd fight.

As for the 11th Pacquaio clearly won it, He landed more left straights than Marquez landed straight rights, and Pacquaio landed a few counter right hooks, he controlled the action, he showed better defense to me.
But Marquez only won 3-4 of the middle rounds while Pacquaio dominated the begining and around the 8th or 9th

I also watched the first fight last night, and people who think Marquez got robbed in either of these fights have no idea what they are talking about. IMO he did not deserve the second fight, and the first fight was a little closer, but he didn't dominate even close to as many rounds as people are making it out to be. Even in having Pacquaio's number Marquez was still not quite Pacman's equal in the ring.