watching this fight calzaghe will kill pavlik

[bambamdaddio]

Why do I think Bernard is a LITTLE better then Calzaghe? First Hopkins dropped Calzaghe as did Mitchell so why would they say Calzaghe has the best chin they've ever faced? Second Bernard over his career has foughten more high quality names then Calzaghe. I am not trying to take anything away from Calzaghe by saying Bernard is better, Calzaghe is a great fighter, but he isn't in Bernard's caliber. He does have the same speed(not of hand, but in general) which their fight showed IMO as Hopkins used his quickness to land the better shots. Joe doesn't have the same accuracy, or power IMO. Watch Bernard against Glen Johnson, he was a complete animal. Hopkins is a little more versatile. I think he has the ability to fight far more fighters, because he can negate anything. Speed, timing, power, pressure, you need name it and Bernard will not only nullify your advantage, but in most cases he could turn it against you. I think Calzaghe is way up there in terms of modern day boxers, but I definitely don't see him being on the very top of the sport.

Cheers for the reply bud but I disagree on just about all your points,espesh the chin bit .. recovery as well as heart and genetics determine how good ya chin is..that aint measured because you have is it two knock downs in his pro career both from which he got up & went into another gear .. in Mitchells case right there & then..if a good chin was determined by knockdowns in a pro career we would be totally re writing boxing history, eg Ali, Fraiser, Hearns, Duran .. ya get my drift bud & I aint gonna bore ya with a long long list .. & as good as B-Hop has been what you see as guile & ability I see a lot of the time as spoiling & overuse of dodgy tactis....

Yet again tho Bud I honestly appreciate your reply & understand to a degree where ya coming from .. but for me he aint in Joes League ... if a good chin is important .. & we know that it is, then surely what price the length of Joes unbeaten career ...Look at Hops face compared to Joe's re marks & bent nose .. & it aint because Joe has fought second raters ... not that you said he has tho either ...

But hey ho thats what makes this sport so brilliant & forums like this excellent re our debates & opinions aint it bud.