The best counter puncher in a long long time, James toney in his prime.. would take advantage of every single hole Joe has in his flurries. I dont see Joe winning that fight with his current style.

Hopkins was an aggressor in his Prime. His reflexes were the same, but his output was much heaviar. If Joe wins a QUESTIONABLE SPLIT DECISION against a Hopkins who looked to throw 1 punch and hold... Then it's pretty obvious who the judges would favor had he fought a more explosive and harder working hopkins of yesteryear.

Just my oppinion as far as toney and hopkins go. I also dont see hopkins losing a rematch. Hopkins knows Workrate kills him.. and he'd be looking to hurt joe in a re.