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What I always find amazing is the fact everyone who detracts from Ali always seems to disreguard the fact he had not yet hit his best in the Cooper/Jones fights but if it was any other fighter they would bring that up first off...and the fact Ali is not the only fighter to have contraversial wins...

why is it Cooper is always brought up?....Even if Cooper did get the win that day fact is when all was said and done he still was not better then Ali overall
Rules are rules Daxx if Smelling salts wern't allowed in the UK at that time, why should Muhammad Ali and his trainer's be allowed the break rules ? that should of been DQ loss.

And he wasn't that far from his prime i believe he fought Doug Jones/Henry Cooper in 1963, he then fought and beat Sonny Liston in one of his best performances in 1964.

Again though why is it those are the only 2 things you can come up with to detract him....You have the same complaint everytime Ali is brought up...You still did not answer the one statement though...

Do you think Either was a better fighter then Ali
But they are big things Daxx if i think Muhammad Ali should have atleast 10 losses on his record. That is a big complaint isn't it ? and i have every right to call him overrated, plus he had alot of struggles with lesser fighters.

Muhammad Ali was a great fighter im not doubting that, but he was very beatable even in his so called "Unbeatable Prime". Where as fighter's like Pernell Whitaker/Roy Jones Jr rarely lost a round let alone look beatable in there prime.

As for your last question no obviously there not as great as Muhammad Ali, but what has that got to do with anything ? is Antonio Tarver/Glen Johnson as great as Roy Jones Jr ? no but they still beat him. And it still doesn't change the fact Henry Cooper technically should of won by DQ, and Doug Jones IMO deserved a draw against Muhammad Ali.