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These are all your opinions. Others, myself included, will disagree with you on some of them. It's true...the Jones and Cooper fights where close and controversial. Ali was a young a fighter then and didn't exactly put on his best performances. As far as his fights against Young and Shavers...please! He was clearly past his best by then. He went into those fights not only past his prime, but also not well conditioned at all. I personally think the Shavers fight was a draw...and the fact that it was that close when Ali was so past his prime...is an attribute to Ali's great heart. And it's true...Holmes was technically a great fighter. But Ali in his prime was so much faster, such a great athlete...he would have beaten Holmes IMO. Again, we all have are opinions. And we aren't always going to agree.


What I always find amazing is the fact everyone who detracts from Ali always seems to disreguard the fact he had not yet hit his best in the Cooper/Jones fights but if it was any other fighter they would bring that up first off...and the fact Ali is not the only fighter to have contraversial wins...

why is it Cooper is always brought up?....Even if Cooper did get the win that day fact is when all was said and done he still was not better then Ali overall
Rules are rules Daxx if Smelling salts wern't allowed in the UK at that time, why should Muhammad Ali and his trainer's be allowed the break rules ? that should of been DQ loss.

And he wasn't that far from his prime i believe he fought Doug Jones/Henry Cooper in 1963, he then fought and beat Sonny Liston in one of his best performances in 1964.

Again though why is it those are the only 2 things you can come up with to detract him....You have the same complaint everytime Ali is brought up...You still did not answer the one statement though...

Do you think Either was a better fighter then Ali