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Sigh, these discussions go on forever.

We'll pu aside the England/Northern Ireland thing. If you don't want to recognize the nationalistic aspects of that dispute, then there is enough other stuff to waste our breath on.

Ok so call the WTC and AlQuaida crap if you want. Dismiss them as a few lunatics if you want, that is not at all helpful.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but WTC attack was directed at the US, not Christianity. And there is likely more of that to come. No one is asking you to crawl under the covers, just to recognize a few basic truths about your enemy. And you don't have to take my word for all this stuff, you can check with your own Department of Homeland Security, unless you think they are crap too?

TM, do you seriously honestly believe that the United States, and therefore you as a citizen, have as much to fear from white supremacists as you do from Al Quaida and others of their ilk? Give this question some serious thought, then answer directly.

Guess what, as your ally, we up here are also putiing ourselves at a certain amount of risk.

One more thing and I repeat for perhaps the 10th time: I never denied the existence of Christian Terrorists, got it? You can stop trying to rebut my points by telling me that they exist.

Again just recognize a few basic truths about your enemy.
Ahhh,aside from the unnecessary bold text your getting to the crux of the matter.
We have screwed with these people for their entire lives,and now they want a little payback.
It doesnt have thing to do with religion,it has alot to do with bad policy that involved bombs on our part.
We've bombed the snot out of these people,disrespected their customs, and propped up one dictator after another.
Who did you think they were going to blame for it,the Easter Bunny?
As ye reap,so shall ye sow
We've done alot of reaping over there in the last 50 years.
No you are incorrect. There has been no concerted effort on the part of the US or any significant part of the US to kill lots of Muslim civilians. Dude, do do you really honestly think that with all the bombing that the US has conducted, that it was really an attmpt to kill civilians, because by golly if that was the case then, as I have stated, there would be far far more dead muslims civilians. Why do you think the US is having so much trouble in Iraq and Afghanistan, it is due in large part to the lack of respect groups like ALQuaida have for civilian life, shit they have no problem killing Iraqis just to try and make us look bad. It's because the US is trying not to kill civilians. Although obviously they are not having 100% success.

Sorry about the bold, but you seem to be consistently ignoring the crux of my points. YOu speak of the evil US and their bombing and all, and a few white supremacists but you have consistently ignored the key issues about indiscriminate killing of civilians. As many as possible. No other group has taken this stated position. What do you think these guys mean when they walk down the street whacking themselves bloody with 2 by 4s, chanting "Death to the Great Satan"? Do you see White Supremacists obtaining nukes, and bioweapons? Are you prepared to say we are no better all the way to your grave?