Mumbai

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The first thing that came to my mind when I read that was the Christians who have bombed abortion clinics.

Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?

For the record,there are rules to Jihad,they get broken,but show me where christ said to take out a federal building.
But according to the rules of Jihad your supposed to leave the civillians and buildings alone

McVeigh was an exception. There are always exceptions. He was specifically ttargeting the government, because of what happened in Waco.

As for rules of jihad, well true enough. I mentioned earlier about not equating Islam with terrorism, but it's worth mentioning again. That doesn't negate my points. Because the type of terrorism I am talking about gets done in the name of Islam, whether it's by the rules or not.

[CFH]

Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?

For the record,there are rules to Jihad,they get broken,but show me where christ said to take out a federal building.
But according to the rules of Jihad your supposed to leave the civillians and buildings alone

McVeigh was an exception. There are always exceptions. He was specifically ttargeting the government, because of what happened in Waco.

As for rules of jihad, well true enough. I mentioned earlier about not equating Islam with terrorism, but it's worth mentioning again. That doesn't negate my points. Because the type of terrorism I am talking about gets done in the name of Islam, whether it's by the rules or not.

He wasn't a Christian anyways, and as you mentioned his religious beliefs had nothing to do with the reasons behind what he did.

[Trainer Monkey]

For the record,there are rules to Jihad,they get broken,but show me where christ said to take out a federal building.
But according to the rules of Jihad your supposed to leave the civillians and buildings alone

McVeigh was an exception. There are always exceptions. He was specifically ttargeting the government, because of what happened in Waco.

As for rules of jihad, well true enough. I mentioned earlier about not equating Islam with terrorism, but it's worth mentioning again. That doesn't negate my points. Because the type of terrorism I am talking about gets done in the name of Islam, whether it's by the rules or not.

He wasn't a Christian anyways, more of an agnostic, and as you mentioned his religious beliefs had nothing to do with the reasons behind what he did.

Actually yes it did,he was mad at the goverment because of their intolerance of the Waco lunatics religous beliefs,which while weird, were Christian, just a very screwed up version of it.
Hey whaddya know about that,Christianity can have sects that are totally screwed up as well.
Unless you can find me find the part where Christ said,"And ye shall stockpile Automatic weapons,and let your daughters lay with the really crappy guitarist,and defy your goverment when its laws dont meet your desire to have illegal weapons"

[CFH]

McVeigh was an exception. There are always exceptions. He was specifically ttargeting the government, because of what happened in Waco.

As for rules of jihad, well true enough. I mentioned earlier about not equating Islam with terrorism, but it's worth mentioning again. That doesn't negate my points. Because the type of terrorism I am talking about gets done in the name of Islam, whether it's by the rules or not.

He wasn't a Christian anyways, more of an agnostic, and as you mentioned his religious beliefs had nothing to do with the reasons behind what he did.

Actually yes it did,he was mad at the goverment because of their intolerance of the Waco lunatics religous beliefs,which while weird, were Christian, just a very screwed up version of it.
Hey whaddya know about that,Christianity can have sects that are totally screwed up as well.
Unless you can find me find the part where Christ said,"And ye shall stockpile Automatic weapons,and let your daughters lay with the really crappy guitarist,and defy your goverment when its laws dont meet your desire to have illegal weapons"

His personal religious beliefs had nothing to do with that, he didn't become religious until he had already been convicted. He was pissed about the goverment, not about the religion of those the government was oppressing. The religion itself was peripheral.

[Trainer Monkey]

Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?

For the record,there are rules to Jihad,they get broken,but show me where christ said to take out a federal building.
But according to the rules of Jihad your supposed to leave the civillians and buildings alone

McVeigh was an exception. There are always exceptions. He was specifically ttargeting the government, because of what happened in Waco.

As for rules of jihad, well true enough. I mentioned earlier about not equating Islam with terrorism, but it's worth mentioning again. That doesn't negate my points. Because the type of terrorism I am talking about gets done in the name of Islam, whether it's by the rules or not.

Oh come now,Atlanta during the Olympics got bombed in the name of Christ.
Not to mention financial terrorism
Like Jerry Falwell supporting South Africa in the middle of Apartheid saying it was gods will that his flock bought Kuggerands to support the Apartheid Goverment.
Or the wack jobs who support Israel,because they believe that Israel has to be in the hands of the Jews for the Rapture to happen,and it doesnt matter what attrocities the Jewish Goverment does as state sanctioned terrorism.
Most of its political anyway,Pakistan and India have hated each others guts for years now.
What really set Bin Laden off was just as much that he was ticked off about the basing rights the Saudi's gave us as it was religous.
You dont Christians can be terrorists?
Ask the victims of the London Disco bombing if Christians can be terrorists, or any catholic child trying to go to school
When we do it,its unfortunate,when they do it,its their evil religion

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For the record,there are rules to Jihad,they get broken,but show me where christ said to take out a federal building.
But according to the rules of Jihad your supposed to leave the civillians and buildings alone

McVeigh was an exception. There are always exceptions. He was specifically ttargeting the government, because of what happened in Waco.

As for rules of jihad, well true enough. I mentioned earlier about not equating Islam with terrorism, but it's worth mentioning again. That doesn't negate my points. Because the type of terrorism I am talking about gets done in the name of Islam, whether it's by the rules or not.

Oh come now,Atlanta during the Olympics got bombed in the name of Christ.
Not to mention financial terrorism
Like Jerry Falwell supporting South Africa in the middle of Apartheid saying it was gods will that his flock bought Kuggerands to support the Apartheid Goverment.
Or the wack jobs who support Israel,because they believe that Israel has to be in the hands of the Jews for the Rapture to happen,and it doesnt matter what attrocities the Jewish Goverment does as state sanctioned terrorism.
Most of its political anyway,Pakistan and India have hated each others guts for years now.
What really set Bin Laden off was just as much that he was ticked off about the basing rights the Saudi's gave us as it was religous.
You dont Christians can be terrorists?
Ask the victims of the London Disco bombing if Christians can be terrorists, or any catholic child trying to go to school
When we do it,its unfortunate,when they do it,its their evil religion

TM, we seem to be conducting different arguments. I am talking about killing as many civilians as possible. That rules out the first half of your post.

I always thought it was US support for Israel against the Palestinians that made Bin Laden hate the US.

The India Pakistan thing is rooted in religion, the partition of India along Muslim/Hindu lines when Britain moved out in the late 40s.

Tell you what though, I'm a little curious about some London Disco bombing in the name of christianity. I took a quick google on that and found nothing. Can you provide a weblink on that?

TM, if you think I said there is no such thing as Christian Terrorism, then you aren't paying attention and I'm wasting my breath. Frankly, I'm not quite sure exactly what it is we are arguing about. I'd like to bring this to a close soon.

regards.