You know, there is a certain logic to what Newkirk said in the first video.

If you are willing to roast and eat the flesh of a turkey, then perhaps you should be willing to roast and eat my flesh. Logic says that the reverse would also be true: If you are not willing to roast and eat my flesh, then you should not be willing to roast and eat the flesh of a turkey. Unbelievable. okay Newkirk, if you say so.

btw, With all due respect to those not present I interpreted Trainer's remark not as a slight on the Humane Society, but rather as an indirect defense of PETA. Are we prepared to say the same things about the Humane Society that we are saying about PETA? I could be mistaken, I guess we'll see.